I like Janeane Garofalo & Rachael Maddow & other thinking Liberals

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even though I am 100% libertarian Ron Paul supporter, and here is why.

They are thinking.

Most of all, they are willing to think about what you have to say, but so few of us in the Revolution actually go out of our way to have a dialog with them.

We have watched Rachael Maddow interview Ron Paul and LISTEN. We have read Glenn Greenwald.

We have watched Jeneane Garofalo be herself and not be intimidated by the Fox Machine in interviews with Jewish-American Brian Kilmeade. Recall that Jesse Ventura just had a "interview" with Brian whereby Brian walks off the set.

Watch Jeneane try to explain her reasoning as hard as she can to the onlslot of UNTHINKING Brian Kilmeade. Just as he was with Jesse Ventura, he won't allow a full reply or time for a reasoned response. Like Sean Hannty, Brain thinks his job is to FRAME a response and issue for an audience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JCakTroF88

My point here is I think people on the liberal left, like Ms. Garofalo, are reachable. I think they CAN come to see why having a Very Small govt is BETTER than having a BIG one

-- we can say, " Hey Left, a very small federal government would mean we keep power small. Keeping Big Brother Power Small means that Big Business & the Military Industrial Complex cannot Co-Opt for their own purposes, and if they do, there is not much they can do with it since that power is VERY limited and restricted".

We can say to Ms. Garofalo and others--

"sure, that does mean that government will do Less For Us, but at least they won't be doing more toooooo us. Yes it is a trade-off that We in the r3VOLution are very willing to make. It means MORE thinking-Caring VOLUNTARY organizations are needed for the poor, hungry, and unfortunate. It means we must grow the voluntary sector of our society BIGGER, and rely a lot less on Govt. And like it or not, we are broke."

Now some will take offense that Ms. Garofalo called the Tea Baggers racists and sees the whole right wing thing as racist homophobic bible thumping gun toting self righteous types, but the answer to her and others is simply to ask,

"can we both PUT DOWN our stereotypes of the Right and Left for just one moment? Can we stop for a second our own pre-judgment? We both fear a Police State, we both do not like the fascist smell in the air, so hey, lets really talk for a minute, don't call us names and we will not call you names. So can we, just for a while, grant the other side has GOOD intentions and hear them out? Can we both, to come together on this one important issue, that is reducing the size and power of government because its all gotten way out of control and totally disconnected from the people?"

Lets have a discussion.

To that end, may I suggest that we hold a Friday, Saturday, Sunday Libertarian -Leftist summit?

We can hold it in California or Arizona or Vegas or Wherever. The point being is that we FIND COMMON GROUND with the anti-war Left. Already in my street protests when Obama came to ASU we found the Code Pink woman cool to us Ron Pauler's.

Its just a matter of time. They are need of new Friends as they learn that OBAMA is morphing into George Bush.

We in the Revolution are also in need of new friends. Unlike those at Faux News, we can open our arms wide and agree to disagree, but come together as a stronger force for good on issues that we do agree with.

Just my thoughts for the day,

In Peace & Liberty,
Treg

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I'll be frank

Progressive-liberal Naomi Wolf pull me into the Ron Paul rEVOLution with her book, "The End of America," back in high school.

both are part of the controlled oppostion

bought and paid for.

Would turn you in for the price of a cup of coffee.

You should research people before standing up for them.

Neither of these people would ever stand up for you.

Unify

Garofalo?

The limbic brain monitor?

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I hope this thread is a joke!!!

Really...Janeane "You must be a racist if you went to a Tea Party" Garofalo ..and Racheal "Government should control everything" Maddow..are people you want to "chat with" ??? I for one have NOTHING to chat with them about. There is no common ground with people like this. Compromise with the left is how we got here to begin with. Next you'll be saying "they have some good ideas on health care"....PUUHHHHLLLEEESSE !!!!!

Puhhleesse! The one good idea that they have on health care

is that the current system is broken. I think its a foolish direction to go single payer, but I also very much agree with them that the current system is not satisfactory. From a free market point of view, we have failed. We have failed to fight for the vision of a free market in medical care, failed to rid ourselves of medicare and medicaid, stop Drug Prescription Benefits, and FAILED FAILED FAILED to show and demonstrate how much a failure those things are. Most of all we have failed to "Paint a Vision" of what a truly free market in medicine would look like and mean for us all.

If you decide to open and watch that 2003 video link and think about that young woman arguing on a openly pro-war network how the invasion of Iraq was a bad idea. That took guts, real guts and self esteem and confidence. I like that in a woman especially when they were right about Iraq, but also when they are wrong. For as I said, some one passionately concerned and thinking, is a natural to see the wisdom in shrinking government power down so the corporate elites don't get their hands on it.....

But you go right ahead with your hands over your ears. Just bite your tounqe as we Patriots bring over more and more disillusioned anti-war leftists.

In peace and liberty,
Treg

just as bad

garafalo has a bigoted and cynical view of the so-called "right."

but i don't see the comments in this thread to be much of an improvement.

i wonder how we plan on coming together as a team when if we are stuck imagining that we are surrounded by bad guys?

besides. garafalo doesn't speak for the left any more than limbaugh speaks for the right.

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Our movement has no chance unless

we can unite with the thinking & honest seeking left.

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Any liberal is reachable for

Any liberal is reachable for the simple fact they want to be free to do what they want. Maddow is a thinking lesbian. Of course she can understand where this movement is coming from especially when she hears Dr. Paul say he wants "the government out of our bedrooms."

Most "Lefts" are really libertarian but they don't realize it. Only half the Lefts truly want the government in their life from cradle to grave. The other half just feels that the Left makes more sense than the Right--it's a case of the lesser of 2 evils.

There are 3 classifications of people/groups against us in my view:

1. Fascists (Neo-cons, Evangelicals, environmentalists, PETA, Gay groups, Rockefeller organizations, MIC.)

2. True Socialists

3. Career politicians and bureaucrats (i.e., Washington D.C.)

Look...

I swear if I hear one more time that gay people are against Ron Paul's stances I'ma go postal.

What part of grouping do you not get (while you were busy grouping)?

And now to be gay is fascist?

What organ do you think with? It can't be your brain.

Thinking lesbians.. are they fascist too... or just ok if they're cute?

WTF is wrong with you?

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Did you read my whole post

Did you read my whole post or just see the word "GAY" and fixate on that?

Yes, there are gay groups/organizations who are fascist. They would rather hang us all by trees before joining us.

As reflected in my post, INTELLIGENT, THINKING homosexual groups and people understand and get Dr. Paul but most do not.

Most of these groups and people like Garofalo are as closed minded and fascist as their oppressors.

You should try to comprehend things before you attack.

I liked Maddow taking Obama to task

for his "prolonged detention" proposal, right on the same day he was criticizing the Bush Administration's violations of human rights. She is really waking up.

Unfortunately, I've posted at least four responses to the YouTube video of her broadcast, and all have been deleted -- probably because they mention false flag operations, the international banking community's engineering of the developing global economic collapse, and Obama's obvious ineligibility for the presidency due to not being a natural born American citizen.

Janeane was one of the first to question 911 publically

She a bit whacked out with her Obama worship though .

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"We have watched Jeneane

"We have watched Jeneane Garofalo be herself and not be intimidated by the Fox Machine in interviews with Jewish-American Brian Kilmeade."

What was the point of writing "Jewish-American"?

How come you didn't write "Christian-American Sean Hannity"?

It's almost like you're using the name of that religion as an insult... Not very libertarian of you if you ask me.

Perhaps because

many US citizens who are Jewish put the interests of the nation state of Israel before their nation of birth. They even have a name for it, "Zionism."

Its divided loyalties... and the fact that they are JEWISH.

Now, what exactly do I mean by saying the "fact that they are JEWISH".

I mean this:

#1) These people as an ethnic/religious class have had and still have an ENORMOUS political influence. From Marx to Trotsky to Milton Friedman to Ayn Rand, these people are thinkers and high achievers and they spin political ideas like cotton candy. Those of us who love the taste keep coming back for more. Some of us even dedicate our lives to these ideas, selling them when and where we can . Even though Jews are only like 1% of the population, they dominate the media with their ideas and opinions. They are a dam smart people with high average IQs, they are high achievers with the highest avg incomes...very impressive! No other group holds as many Nobels in science. No other group has changed nations with its political ideas. They truly have my respect and admiration.

#2) Most American Jews are Zionists by default. Israel is good and MUST be saved at all costs. Even though they are Americans, these Americans have DIVIDED LOYALTIES. Its not AMERICA FIRST, LAST and FOREVER for them. American Jews do have a "Special Relationship with Israel". For them Israel is the mother country. But just because American Jews have a special relationship with Israel, does NOT mean that America must have one. Back before WWII, the British led a propaganda campaign in the US to remind Americans of their "special relationship with Britain as the mother country". Spys and sympathizers in the media pressed this point day in and day out to Americans, so much so that they craved to help Britain out and have a reason to enter WWII. My point here is that Israel is not the first country to Sell itself to the American People as having a "special relationship".

So American Jews are A)-Smart, B) In the Media, C) Have deep Political intellect D) Highest average incomes and E) have Divided Loyalties, putting Israel First (or "equal loyalties" as a Jewish friend of my describes himself to me..

Now for you out there who may be thinking I am "anti-semetic" Jew hater, please go jump in the lake. I am not.

LET ME DO THE MATH FOR YOU. The two points above means DANGER for America. It means we must keep vigilant as to WHO is telling us WHAT and for WHOSE benefit.

Brain on Fox is in the tank for ISRAEL and thus a NeoCon shill like millions of other Jewish Americans. That does not mean that we should shut them up, round them up and kill them, absolutely nothing of the sort. I do not hate them and nor should you. I respect them greatly. I have been wonderfully influence by Rand and Friedman and Mises and Hayek and Rothbard, and Block, and Richmond, all libertarian Jews-- which is to say, I ate their political cotton candy and now I like you, am busy reselling it to anyone who will buy it.

What it does mean is we should recognize the political intellectual power and Divided Loyalties of American Jews, especially those in Politics and in the Media. It is no accident that the strongest lobby in Congress is the Jewish American Lobby. That is another amazing thing when you just look at their 1% numbers.

So, it is wise to see and hear who is talking to you and taking a political position and where that person is coming from. Hence, I said Brian, a "Jewish American" with the hopes that you already knew #1 and #2 above.

Its therefore is meaningless and pointless to say, "Sean Hanity, Irish Catholic" or what have you.

In Peace & Liberty,
Treg

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While strongly backing Obama

where are they now? usurped.

I liked when Janeane Garofalo called us all racist teabaggers

That was nice. She was really using her noggin. Maddow may be starting to come around, Garofalo is not. Your clip was from 03, all democrats seemed awake when they were spewing against Bush--something put them back to sleep if they were ever even close to waking up in the first place. The teaparties were pure racism, remember that.

Well if the shoe fits, wear it.... I do not know about you...

but the hundreds of Fox inspired rank and file republicans DO Strike me as bigots and racists. Our libertarian-revolution Tea Party was over taken by them. The smell here in Arizona was pure bigotry...which is truly uniting them more than ideological beliefs, beliefs in the free market and capitalism, and they wrap themselves in the flag WAY too fast. Do a test....take a video camera to a Rank and File GOP event. Ask one question. "Tell me why the GOP and you support lowering or getting rid of the minimum wage." Listen and listen well. It will be a thousand times different than our answer, ie it HURTS the working poor and causes MORE unemployment.

But what do I know.

In Peace & Liberty,

Treg

agreed

"This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave."

"This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave."

Garofalo is a Hard Left loon

who is obsessed with race, completely arrogant, and delusional. That's my two cents. Maddow is OK, she's a righteous lesbian.

as an anti-war conservative

as an anti-war conservative, it was nice listening to garafalo's voice in contrast to the obedient media.

but, i soon learned that i wasn't in love with their positions -- so much as i just thought it was nice to listen to *anybody* who stood against the official lies, contradictions, hypocracy, corporatism, theft, etc....

now that the so-called "right" is out of power, these talking-heads are no longer taking any significant stance against any of the things they were complaining about for 8 years.

garafalo's latest flogging of tea-party participants as just a bunch of angry racists runs at stark contrast to human reason.

if there is a libertarian-left conference to find common ground, the first rule of order must to eliminate the false left/right paradigm.

which, even the brightest minds, are falling victim too.

Remember that if you aren't

Remember that if you aren't willing to listen to the other person's ideas, what makes you think they should be respectful and listen to yours. Actually, I find it much easier for a Democrat to fall inline with libertarian views than a Republican. They just have a hard time letting go of statist views when it comes to how much "good" the government can do, and don't quite get the idea that a free people can do much better.

The big problem right now is that everything is Democrat versus Republican and everyone will say "conservative" when referring to a Republican and "liberal" when referring to Democrat. Democrat and Republican are not ideologies. They are political parties, and most people can't get past this when discussing politics. Political parties are designed to get votes.

I think it is wise to come together whenever we can find common ground when you are talking about rallies or events or charities. If we push Democrats or Republicans away then we just become another side in the "Us vs Them" dance going on right now.

I like

anyone who thinks. I don't like Janeane Garofalo.

And your reasons are?

Since you are thinking, that is why I ask for your reasons....

In peace & liberty,
Treg

I've just

never heard anything I've thought was intelligent come from Janeane Garofalo's mouth. She's inane.

Garafalo

is a HARD CORE fascist. You entire post is very questionable since you are using pop culture definitions instead of historically accurate one.

Statist Loon

Like 95% of the clowns in Hollywood.

That's a generic statement.

Could you please clarify what you mean by "You entire post is very questionable"?

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