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Ron Paul himself says "money rich" and says "Dec 16th" will be big

Here is the video from TODAY with Ron Paul saying himself that not only are they money rich was but that Dec 16th is suppose to be even bigger than Nov 5th... are we to prove him wrong?

http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=138...

If the campaign keeps calling for money every five days until Dec 16th will we fail Ron Paul that day? Will the media pounce?




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Encourage

True, I get grouchy at 11:30PM. I still have about 1 hours work to finish up before another work day.

That being said, I wish you would stop this dialogue. The campaign is doing the right thing getting $$ now. They are sending out many mailers here in SC. I received 1 but I spoke to 2 guys who like Huck who each received 2-3 mailers. They liked Dr Paul as the 2nd choice. Mailers cost money. The word needs to get out now.
They also did not know about Hucks record. We can leave this to Mitt and Rudy (and me and you) to educate the public on this.
This means the campaign is working hard and Ron Paul can take this state and NH and then Ron will be hard to stop. It is an uphill race and time is going fast.

My point is you have made your point 100 times now and that is enough.
If you don't want to contribute to educate Rudy, then don't. Contribute when you want.
This has nothing to do with limiting your free speech. You have to be a team player and team Ron Paul is doing very well so start talking positive about them! We need to encourage one another and not tear each other down.

The Militia

Tough to organize people who aren't obliged to do what you tell them. I imagine Gen. Washington had quite a time with the militia under his 'command'. This is a question of tactics. I for one consider Dec 16th VERY important. We cannot fail (and we won't).

Save your

donations for the Tea Party, thats when I will donate again.

G_d bless

Attend a Church of your choice this Saturday.
G_d bless

Folks, it's a political campaign

I get the idea that December 16th is huge and turning into a world-wide event. I've signed up and I'm going to contribute on that day. And I understand that if it's covered as we all hope it is, it's worth millions in advertising. Although, I would also caution that the media might think they've already covered the story in November. So don't expect the scales to fall from their eyes. If all you can afford is to donate on that day, save it up for that day. That's fine. If you can afford more, that's even better.

But understand, it's a campaign. If you've run for office, you know how it is. You wake up in the morning thinking about money. You go to sleep at night thinking about the money. Every day. You're constantly asking for money. The campaign needs money today. They'll need money tomorrow. They'll need money on December 16th. And the 17th. And the 18th. And so on. Don't begrudge them asking. They have to ask. Often. Repeatedly.

No vendor prints brochures or letterhead or yard signs or bumper stickers, no mailing house mails brochures, no studio produces ads and no station runs ads on credit when dealing with a political campaign. A political campaign is not P&G or AB or any other consumer packaged goods company that advertises all year long and buys through an agency that has established credit. Printers and media don't send invoices out to the campaign at the end of the month. Anything a political campaign wants or needs to purchase, must be paid for at the time it's ordered, or at least delivered. If it's not in the account, they can't afford it. TV and radio stations aren't going to save the prime ad slots on a promise to pay. As it gets closer to the primaries, there will be fewer and fewer good media slots available.

Paid vs. unearned media. You buy the time, you can control the message. You can hope and pray the unearned media works to your advantage at the right time, but you can't count on it alone. A disaster could happen on that day and your story is off the schedule. Interviews canceled. Then what? You got the money, but the spots are gone. You better have a blitz of ads already bought and scheduled to run in prime viewing time and radio spots in the morning and evening drives up to and including voting day.

Well put

Well put

why such little talk of "Rudys Reading List" donation day?

it's a few days away. Even the people that talk about "giving now" aren't talking about the 30th.

Imagine the publicity the foreign policy issue could receive with a 4 million dollar day!

a link to an earlier post of mine:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/9155#comment-73377

Devil, I am glad you have a good cause...

And I agree with you on several points.

1) The media did not spin Nov. 5th as a failure because it took them by surprise and they had not personally reported a $10m goal. This time is different, they have reported on a $10m goal and they ARE watching us. However, had they reported a record breaking day as a failure, they would have looked like loons.

That being said, as long as we outpace the 5th, they cannot spin it as a failure because we will once again have broken records. However, unless we completely toast the 5th, we won't get much more attention for it.

2) The TeaParty is VERY important.

However, that being said... And this has been said here before... Those who can donate now and then and want to both should. Those who would rather donate now, should. Those who want to wait until the TeaParty should. Their choice, not yours or mine. You have made your personal choice, so why keep pushing it?

Basically, what I am saying is drop it, while you make valid points, all I have seen you talk about is this for a while... :)

I almost miss the discussions on your backup plan... ;)

well said

i agree completely

to devils: have you ever heard about a "pushy salesman"?
please do not let that happen to TeaParty

"Who is Jonathan Bydlak?"

or......."Google Jonathan Bydlak", to paraphrase a popular Ron Paul campaign poster.

Well.....I DID.

My research indicates that Mr. Bydlak is a 24 year old, 2005 graduate of Princeton University with a degree in Economics. His senior thesis was "So You Want To Be A Rock Star? An Application of the Superstar Hypothesis to the Popular Music Market". Upon graduation he wen to work for a Wall Street hedge fund. He quit in August to join the Ron Paul campaign as a Campaign fund manager.

NOT a personal attack. BUT....is this person IN ANY WAY more qualified that you or I, or you, or you, or YOU! to determine the direction and spending of campaign funds raised?

QUESTION EVERYTHING!!!!!

"People you've got to take the lead, or you shall be lead....ASTRAY." - Ben Harper

TEA PARTY07 !!!!!

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I'm missing something

Were there several other more qualified candidates who did not get the position?

Not sure I see the point of sniping (and that's what this is, make no mistake about it - this is not questioning) about Bydlak because of his age or the title of his senior thesis.

One of my close friends is an actuary. He's a brilliant mathematician. His Masters thesis was some horsecrap on Blackjack Probabilities and Advanced Simulations. He's also done stand up comedy and worked as a waiter at a sports bar/grill while looking for actuarial work.

I'd recommend him to be Ron Paul's accountant any day.

So in other words, this post telling us to "question" Bydlak is nothing but smear. If you have legitimate reasons for distrusting his abilities then you should produce them. Otherwise you are no better than the dunces that smear Ron Paul with innuendos.

And yes, I'm pretty certain that he is more qualified than ME. I can't say that about anyone else, because I don't have all of your resumes in front of me. But I do know that mine says Systems Administrator, and that in no way qualifies me to study the impact of campaign donations on votes.

-Dave

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SHE STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN - Michael Savage in reference to Dianne Fienstein

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Stay Tuned....

I promise, Dave......I'm not "smearing" Mr. Blydak, just highlighting the fact that he is no better or more experienced than all of us. Since it has been the grassroots that has lead since the beginning, I am respectfully suggesting that now that we have had some very real sucess with Nov. 5th we not so easily hand over authority to someone/anyone else regarding the spending of raised funds. Tomorrow night I will post "Just the Facts..." regarding the primary/delegates system and how EVERY president for the last 31 YEARS has WON. I've been researching all day, and am just now getting it down. It just MIGHT suggest factual reasons why distrusting Mr. Blydak's abilities in this case is the best thing you could do to help Ron Paul WIN.

Until Then.....

"Luctor et Emergo" - Struggle and Emerge

I would guess that until you

I would guess that until you or I have interviewed him personally, we're in no place to armchair quaterback the hiring process employed by Ron Paul and his staff.

I agree, though, that everything should be questioned and qualified, but nothing you've proposed here disqualifies him. I work with a number of college-aged kids - some are still in school and some are recently graduated, but these are kids who have been able to jump into the fray of software engineering, project management tasks and the like without skipping a beat... their short resumes only speak to their ages, not their abilities.

Stay Tuned....

Stay tuned, "Tree".

Tomorrow night I will post "Just The Facts..." regarding the primary and delegates system, and how every president since the institution of this process (1976) has WON. It will respectfully suggest that Mr. Blydak, although clearly well intentioned, is, in this very important case, hopelessly CONVENTIONAL and misinformed as to the best way to advertise Ron Paul. I have spent the day researching....just now putting it down.

TEA PARTY 07!!!!

BECOME A DELEGATE...IN ANY STATE!!!!

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Just the facts

I'll be looking forward to this post, John Galt.

Same, that sounds really

Same, that sounds really interesting.

Maybe he is a volunteer

One thing for certain - those TV spots running in New Hampshire ain't gonna make a rock star out of anybody (I got taken to the woodshed here for suggesting they 'stink'). Fortunately the self-organization at the grass roots is awesome!

PLEASE watch this Ron Paul video from tod

Ron Paul essentially says he has so much money he doesnt even know what to do with it now AND all but basically ENDORSED DEC 16TH...

What is wrong with you people that you trust *one person* who's job it is to get get get now.... vs even Ron Paul himself.

There are many professional people working for Dec 16th, Ron Paul has plenty for two week.... WE DID NOV 5TH not Mr. Badlyk or the campaign. We did it - the grass roots and even TODAY in the video Nov 5th is still being WOWED AND TALKED ABOUT....

Please think for yourself... here is the video of today reinforcing the things I am preaching about:
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=138...

I don't understand

I don't understand the anger against the campaign for the donation emails. They brought in lots of money both times. He makes valid points that the primaries are fast approaching, doing well in the early states is of critical importance, and payment has to be made weeks ahead of time in many cases.

Remember, the campaign is run on principles--the same principles that Ron Paul will uphold when he's president: he doesn't spend money he doesn't have. He's not going to spend the tea party money before it's in. Even if he were to go out and spend it the next day, that would still put the advertisements bought with it days before the early primaries at best, and likely after.

Also, not everyone is as passionate about it as those of us that daily visit forum sites devoted to the campaign. There are tons of people that visit the Ron Paul site, decide they like him, sign up for his email list, and that's that. Those are the people he's sending the email to. It's not going to drag down the tea party. People will still donate to that. It will beat the 5th and it will be huge.

And as Trevor Lyman himself has recently noted, if we can reach 12 million before the 16th, we would get good press from two milestones, the first one helping to build awareness for the second, making it even bigger. Otherwise, we'll hit 12 million during the tea party, and the two milestones will be rolled into one and there will be only one wave of positive MSM exposure.

I can't understand why that woman asked such a rude question

It's the same type of ignorant comment that Stephanopoulos .These people have said that to no other cannidate they wouldn't dare say that to John Mccain he might attack them physically. People need to contact stations that employ people like these pople and say your unhappy with them on the show and not bring up Ron Paul

Ron Paul himself is endorsing Dec 16th...

I just dont get it... I really dont get it... Ron Paul himself has now stated on the news about how Dec 16th will exceed Nov 5th... he does everything short of saying I endorse Dec 16th because he cant, nor can his campaign.
Why do you people listen to the campaign FUND RAISER who wants to make himself look good, over Ron Paul himself?
Ron Paul says he is money rich right now and looking foreward to Dec 16th and yet you people keep wanting to derail the train with money bomb this day, money bomb that day... etc...

Even to this VERY DAY he is getting IMMENSE EXPOSURE AS TODAY over $4.32 million in one day and yet people want to jump on *one man* in the campaign's call to send monies now... CONSIDER... he gets it today or he gets it Dec 16th - Ron Paul still gets it!!!! Ron Paul himself said in the following video, they dont even know how to spend the extra money, they are still kicking it around, so what does 2 lousy weeks matter at this point VS AWESOME MEDIA DAY FOR DEC 16TH....

I cant believe you guys are even wanting to ignore or disregard Ron Paul's own words.... here is the video link again for any who may have missed it posted all over this website:
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=138

I don't think you have anything to worry about

I think the 16th will be BIG - especially with the synergy of the Blimp - and the Boston Tea Party resonates with the national psyche, at least superficially. We are growing, right? We aren't tapped out, are we?

That was an awesome interview

I am very pleased with that performance. I'm glad the good doctor injected a little humor into it. It gives the listen an impression that he is relaxed, confident and has a personality.
Bravo Dr. Paul.

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Ron Paul also said

that because more money is coming into the campaign, they have a responsibility to spend it wisely----all the advertising/direct mailings AND by adding MORE STATES! They are opening more campaign offices and this means more everyday operating costs. They didn't expect to be running as big a campaign as WE wanted! Now, they are responding by ramping it up. We do want him to win, don't we? Then we can't criticize them for asking for more money sooner, we just have to make it happen. We wanted him to run with the big dogs, now we can't ask him to scale back and wait for OUR Schedule! The only answer is MORE PEOPLE. It is all NUMBERS. That's why they send out letters and why Trevor is doing the Rudy's Reading List and why there are still moneybombs. If we want it BIG, Let's make it Happen! The key is MORE NUMBERS.

Sucking the wind from the sails.

I think the big impact statement was what doubled Paul's numbers in the first place and was worth more than many bought commercials, and it didn't cost the campaign. I'm doubling my donation on the 16th, which still isn't a whole lot, but I'm saving it specifically for that day.

Commercials will help, but not as much as the news can. And I think that's where RP will gain the most from... being in the news. Much more than hokey tv ads and annoying automated calls.

Still, I don't blame the campaign guy. He's a good kid and on the same team, but I honestly think we should make the 16th as big as we possibly can, even if it takes holding back the donations for the next 2 weeks.

Save your

donations for the Tea Party, thats when I will donate again.

G_d bless

Attend a Church of your choice this Saturday.
G_d bless

bump!

bump!

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If December 16th does not meet it's mark

it will be a National embarassment for Ron Paul. Especially, since Nov. 5th was such a great success.

I can see the headlines now.

"Ron Paul supporters fail to come through this time." They will probably use it as proof that Ron Paul only has a few thousand supporters, this is why they couldn't muster up one hundred thousand pledges.

Just my opinion, but a Teaparty failure could be very damaging to Ron Paul, because it can be spun in so many negative ways by the MSM.

The Teaparty not only needs to raise the $10M, but also needs to show that there were 100,000 pledges in order to be a success and there are only 19 days left to accomplish this.

Or else the MSM will have a field day.

Currently there are just a little over 21,000 pledges on the Teaparty site.

Have some faith in our people!

I remember seeing comments like this before the 5th of November and how the media would spin it and make it look like we failed if we did not meet our 10 million dollar goal then. We also only had 17,000 - 18,000 people signed up to donate, but what happened? We had almost 40,000 donors and we brought in 4.2ish million and how did the media spin that? They did not say we were failures and it looked pretty amazing. Of course they went off and spun it to make it look like we were all terrorists, but in the end it was a success.
One thing I am sure of with this campaign is that it never ceases to amaze me. Ron Paul's supporters are the most faithful and committed, hands down! We will top November 5th whether we hit our 10 million goal or not, it will still be a large success. If they want to spin it, we will show them Obama's, Huckabee's and good ol' Fred Thompson's huge failures with their "money-bomb" days.
Go Ron Paul and lets keep this momentum going!

Ron Paul has my vote!

Frankly, I think it WILL BE spun against us....

We will top November 5th whether we hit our 10 million goal or not, it will still be a large success. If they want to spin it, we will show them Obama's, Huckabee's and good ol' Fred Thompson's huge failures with their "money-bomb" days.

*WE* cant show the media anything! Only the people of this country can show the media anything, and that is by the MOTHER LOAD of money bombs on Dec 16th...

Do YOU want to sit back in disappointment and say... well, I guess we did dilute down Dec 16th... and after all the time and trouble people went to accomplish this feet - PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE no less... WE DID NOV 5TH not the campaign, as Ron Paul said in the video himself, not one campaign member lifted a finger to help out Nov 5th...

Don't Worry

We're going to blow the doors off this one.

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