Campaign for Liberty vs. American Free Press

A quick perusal of both the contents of the letters so properly drafted and addressed to AFP, as well as some of the rather shallow detractor arguments being levied on this site, leads me to the conclusion that this Whatcom county group was not only well within their rights and prerogatives, but excelled beyond many in the CFL, in carrying the battle for liberty to another level.

Though confronting an otherwise often accepted and unquestioned organization in the AFP, they nonetheless posed very proper concerns and questions. However, the lesser issue of supposed misuse of a presumed logo or trademark, is being offered as nearly the single argument posed in response! That is telling in itself, and begs the question, why are other grassroots entities within the loose, and I stress loose umbrella of the CFL, not doing the same, and carrying the 'grass fire' for freedom to the logical roots?

Instead we are confronted by spurious and obfuscating arguments placed in the path of well intended, freely derived, and very necessary inquiry. These people who carried out this procedure in the best traditions of liberty working hand in hand with limited government, in this case a committee and county organization, should be no less than commended, with the issue of turf war over names and potential threats to money base, laid on the relative back burner, to be discussed in private cooperation, rather than as dirty laundry!

For your information, I am reliably informed that the CFL does not necessarily "own" rock solid, the trade name they claim, but at least one corporation in one state owns a similar name including their state name, as one of their trademarks. The people involved being in concert I suppose with CFL, this should pose no rick, but rather be a boon in the battle for liberty. In addition this fact should at least beg an amenable council between fellow patriots dedicated to a common cause, rather than threatening postures and aspersions cast broadly about on such sites as DP!

To so quickly accuse with such high dudgeon, the efforts of this Whatcom County, WA, group who have simply and proficiently done their grassroots duty as bottom up freedom, and to imply with such accusation that they are nearly criminals for having done the unpardonable.... using (how dare they) a logo that looks like the logo of the group they support, is disingenuous, defeatist, and will very soon relegate the CFL to the forgotten ranks of history much like the former 'Christian Coalition'?! (or... what was their name?)

One might even suggest that motives of turf such as the direction and quantity of membership money flow, might be a hidden motive? I for one would hope not, but such activity as this should be encouraged, not dissuaded, enabled and not impeded. For the CFL to focus entirely upon the use of perceived turf such as logos, in the absence of concern or support for process engaged in by the Whatcom group, will not sit well with a free liberty minded grassroots. Rumblings of CFL top down control, as opposed to the grassroots giving sustenance and wisdom towards the top, bodes ill. The former is uncannily similar to party 'de fuehrerprinzip', but the latter, reflects the wisdom of 'we the 'sovereign' people!
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"Suspicion is a Virtue, if in the interests of the good of the people." Patrick Henry

"We are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of Nature has placed in our power... the battle, sir, is not to the strong alone - it is to the brave..."

When a local County group has decided to use a Logo that does not belong to them they are placing theirselves and the National organization in a precarious position. In looking up this information regarding this a couple of questions come to mind

1) Who is Andy Wilcoxson? He is not listed on the county's page in the C4L.

2) Did the county coordinator read the rules for using the C4L logo?
Use of Campaign for Liberty Logo:
Interim District and County Coordinators may use the logo and letterhead for communications in their respective areas; communications must be approved by the interim State Coordinator.

Robyn.

AFP makes some valid points as to the slave trade, it's preponderance of Jewish participants, and the relevance that has today to the constant attacks on European culture or the hypocrisy of Christian culture (often levied by Jewish intellectuals). I think we ought to be able to discuss these collectivist attacks on European cultures, without jumping to the notion that Jewish people as a group should be collectively condemned for them (antithesis of Libertarianism).

I generally am for free and open debate. However, given AFP's inflammatory nature, they shouldn't be at Campaign for Liberty meetings, as we should be trying to find common ground to work together, not divide ourselves over the sins of the past. Focus people!

I have no complains with Jim Tucker, however Pat Shannan is the assistant editor of AFP and that guy is full of it.
He spoke @ one of our C4L meetings, and we lost 10% of the crowd in the first 5 minutes. His claims had no backing, and the general mood was he was out offend with racially motivated theories. He was also quoted on the local radio station saying " the Yews set off mini-nukes on 911". Who need controlled opposition when so-called patriots are painting us all with the broad brush of hateful motivation. F* the AFP

Why send a letter like that? If you are going to keep something from your meetings, just do it.

Was there really an expectation that they'd send a flowery apology letter?

"Oh please, don't ban us from your county meetings. We will do anything to stop that. We will only print articles you approve ahead of time. We'll do whatever you want. You are so much smarter than us. Would you be our new editor?"

Wasn't it much more likely you'd receive exactly what you did?

"Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press..."

The Campaign for Liberty defends the constitution and that amendment.

Do you?