Jekyll Island Project Media Blackout; Bob Schulz Refuses Press Coverage
Submitted by Alli on Wed, 05/27/2009 - 13:58
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This past Thursday and Friday, Bob Schulz, Chairman of the “We the People Foundation” held a two-day gathering of pro-liberty activists off the coast of Georgia on Jekyll Island. Students of history, those with an interest in modern money mechanics, and political junkies will recall that Jekyll Island was the birthplace of the banker-crafted legislation, originally entitled the “Aldrich Plan”, which led to the rise of the 3rd Central Bank of the United States, more commonly known as the FEDERAL RESERVE.
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Schulz (WTP) at it again... agent provacatuer? Send your money!?
Again WTP is after money from the liberty movement, and at the same time creating a total non-event distraction which has zero power or constitutional authority! It is a plain money raiser for WTP, to help with his other 'lost' cases and issues, most of which resources are used for defense, the precious funding usually going into the coffers of the left wing ACLU attorney Mark Lane!
Frankly, the true allegiance of WTP to the liberty movement, is called into question... it is an odd and self centered organization it appears, and bears watching before leaping!
It does not focus on Ron Paul's projects, but attempts to fight battles where there is no issue supported constitutionally, such as trying to force congress to respond to him! Of course Congress does not HAVE to respond... imagine if every one of the thousands of petitions required response. This was never intended by the founders in that sense. This can be a distraction and confusion to new people in the liberty movement.
WTP founder friendships with the Rockefeller family should be clarified, along with his support of an open Constitutional Convention, which he pushed more than a decade ago already. I am suspicious of his true motives. He did not really support Paul, but ... Schulz, and where he inters into cases, bad law is created. He has co-opted others material without permission, and used other famous names to promote his money drives for meetings... there are a few others who shamelessly do this also! He is not alone.
Beware that you do not get sucked in for your whole wallet.
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Socratic Law of Causality
Not everything secret is evil.
We have to have real strategy to be effective.
Cause & Effect -- if you want to achieve what someone else has, do exactly what they did. You can't win when you are showing all your cards.
Bob Shulz- Edgar Steele
Bob Shulz insisted on inviting Edgar Steele as a "leader" to his Jekyll Island project even after knowing about his "divisive" positions. Could this be the reason Bob Shulz wanted secrecy? I was an invited "leader" and chose not to attend because of this. I will choose to follow Ron Paul's lead in trying to uniting our fellow Americans not divide them.
The Movement's Godfather is....
Ron Paul, regardless if Mr. Schulz understands or accepts it. He made a grievous mistake trying to exert absolute control over this endeavor instead of allowing it to proceed in the open.
And wow claiming someone showed up solely for publicity when they did attend or support the CC2009 is pretty dishonest. If the leaked email is found to be credible coupled with the Jekyll press blackout, Mr. Schulz may have just doomed the event.
Let this be a lesson. Do not mess with the grassroots or the new-media. We take our job to ask the hard questions and report the facts regardless of whether or not they are in relation to someone in the pro-liberty movement. Long live harnd-nosed old-Chicago style journalism.
Alli
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Not Buying this line of Secrecy Tripe
The meeting was not secret, all its purpose served was to bring likeminded liberty-minded activists together to support CC2009.
The founders did not meet in secret until after Britain declared war upon the colonies. Then they met in hiding.
Using the philosophy you espouse this then means that no one should care if the Bilderberg Group meets in a complete media blackout?
Sorry, and really it is irrelevant as Mr. Schulz admitted by phone that his press secretary was incorrect, the print media was welcome it was merely a miscommunication by him and only video taping was prohibited (no independent media was present however) and that he guarantees all future proceedings will be open to the print media.
Alli
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From: EdwinVieira to bob@give
From: EdwinVieira
to bob@givemeliberty.org
date Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:13 PM
subject Report of Jekyll Island Conference
Bob:
Just for the record--I was not "in absentia" at the recent Jekyll Island conference, as reported
by you in your e-mail on the subject. That term implies that one is an attendee who simply could
not show up, for one reason or another. I was not an attendee, but merely sent you a statement of
my approval of "the Continental Congress idea", provided that it was conducted according to certain
standards, which I set out in some detail. That, and only that, is the extent of my approval.
Obviously, I do NOT necessarily support whatever was discussed or decided at the Jekyll Island
conference, as I had no part in the discussions, deliberations, or decision-making. If people want
to know my position on any of the issues ventilated at the conference, they must consult me
directly, and not assume that any conclusions stated by the conference attendees reflect my
position.
Thanks for keeping this clarification in mind in the future.
EdwinVieira
to bob
8:41 PM (20 hours ago)
Follow up message
Reply from Edwin Vieira to Bob :
Fine, you are quite correct. I presume then that you are in agreement that I was not present "in
absentia", let alone "in praesentia", or in animo, at the conference, and therefore should not be
listed among the "leaders" who participated there or are or will be participating in future
activities on behalf of the Continental Congress. I do not appreciate having my name listed among
participants in projects in which I did not participate and am not participating, and as to which
my non-participation was made clear before any participation by actual participants.
I presume that you will make the appropriate amendations in your internet report on the Jekyll
Island conference, with respect to the removal of my name from the peculiarly prominent position it
was given in the original list of "leaders", or for that matter from any such position.
Thank you.
Alli I believe you have this
Alli I believe you have this all wrong. Some things need to be done in private until your plan is complete and can become active to make real changes. I assure you our founding fathers did not let King George know 2 years in advance what they were planning on doing. If you haven't noticed many people not on our side are watching every move we make and if told exactly what we had planned they could counteract our efforts with 1 phone call. Do you forget what we are actually up against? They have all the money and can initiate any plan within seconds and have it staffed and paid for before the ink is dry on our plans.
Your article seemed to imply that this group of people to which many of them I know personally are up to some sinister plan to harm America. These are the very same people that have been fighting for years to try and restore America and our Constitution. You have made a strong calim as to the intent of these people and IMO is unwarranted.
I would suggest everyone with their panties in a bunch sit tight and wait instead of demanding answers on questions and motives they know nothing about.
GOSSIP HAS NO PLACE IN THIS REVOLUTION.
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Firstly your understanding of history is incorrect...
The 1st Continental Congress did not meet "secretly" until after King George the Third's reply proclomation to the "Olive Branch Petition" and the subsequent formal announcement of Separation via the Declaration of Independence.
Thus there was no secrecy until after King George the III declared the colonies to be in a state of Total rebellion.
Moreover, as I point out in my article, many of those who attended have nothing but my utmost respect.
First, I spoke with Mr. Schulz in January and he GUARANTEED transparency throughout the process. After playing phone tag with him for 2 weeks he rescinded his claim and denied ALL press coverage whatsoever, shoving me off to his Media Director, Mr. McGreevy who called this meeting "Insider Business" gee how very elitest sounding.
Additionally, Mr. Schulz (and this part is important) and myself spoke by telephone today (May 27, 2009) and he said he merely misunderstood that I was print media and that Mr. McGreevy was incorrect as Press was allowed. His statement today is a complete contradiction of our phone conversation last Tuesday as I made it clear, there was no desire by me to film anything.
Moreover, your assertion that any of the article is gossip is also unsubstantiated. My first hand accounts of conversations, and reports by sources inside the meeting hardly constitute tabloid reporting.
In conclusion, after speaking with him for two hours today, it is my intention to draft an update to the post. However, any group that meets in secret will not have my support nor the support of the many email received from people thus far.
Alli
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Yes much of your article is
Yes much of your article is GOSSIP.
Hardly a satisfactory answer, perhaps he has taken lessons from the current crop of politicians and press secretaries whose modus operandi seems to be to obfuscate and dismiss any question they do not feel obliged to answer, ergo Gibbs, Fleischer & Company : GOSSIP
Please correct me if the facts are to the contrary, but this meeting, nor the upcoming Continental Congress are not tasked with the planning or implementation of declaring war on our current corrupt trough of plutocratic oligarchs. : GOSSIP
Our sources inside also indicated that the expense offset package proposal came as a hedge against electing delegates that either were all independently wealthy or unemployed “deadbeats”. GOSSIP
Yes most are deadbeats. That is a well thought out comment. Consider the people that fought the revolution that were very poor, were they deadbeats as well?
I would point our more but this is getting boring.
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Sorry charlie, during my conversation again today with Mr. Schulz, he reiterated that the point of CC2009 is to submit a formal draft of Redress of Grievances, not declare war.
No you see this is editorial, my opinion in response to his direct audio recorded answer to me.
Wrong again. The term "deadbeats" comes directly from an inside source when he referred to how the proposal was introduced, hence the quotes. Thus since the delegate who told me this story is deemed reliable and truthful by me, I will take them at their word.
Now see, I would be happy to keep doing this but since it is plainly obvious you know not the actual definition of the word "Gossip" it would be just a waste of time.
However, always one to help educate those flailing helplessly in a sea of intellectual unsophistication, let me provide to you the actual dictionary definition of the word "gossip" - k
So unless you have some actual sources from inside the meeting, actually attended the meeting yourself, or can prove that the recorded conversation with Mr. Schulz today is false, you have nothing to stand on other than your wholly flawed analysis.
Alli
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Allison Bricker
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Alli...
Pay no attention to this guy, ThePatriot, aka SGP (Steve Parent). He will do or say anything to make himself feel important. Maybe you remember him from during the election, a very divisive character. Why would anybody change their handle?
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Yes; aside from Dr. Katheryn Albrecht from Genesis ...
Communications who broadcasts a daily show early in the day, Mon. thru Fri., - well, she was the only one who mentioned it at all. I wonder why??
According the Dr. Albrecht, a small group of well-known people within the patriot movement (for lack of a better term) including Alex Jones, Lew Rockwell, and others (if my memory serves me correctly) went there this last weekend to discuss some issues, sort of like having a summit, if you will.
Beyond that I haven't heard a thing about it. I wonder why? I would very much like to know what they discussed and what they see happening on the horizon. I wonder if they have planned any events that we all could participate in??
Mr. Rockwell did not participate
If Dr. Albrecht reported that Mr. Rockwell or Alex Jones attended she is incorrect.
I spoke personally with Mr. Rockwell and he indicated a scheduling conflict would prevent him from attending. Additionally, Mr. Jones was also unable to attend.
A more thorough list of who could not attend is provided at the link, as well as those completely dismissed from receiving an invitation whatsoever.
Alli
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"None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Allison Bricker
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"None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe