Torture and the American Conscience
We now know that the reason the Bush regime tortured its captives was to coerce false testimony that linked Iraq and Saddam Hussein to al Qaeda and September 11. Without this “evidence,” the US invasion of Iraq remains a war crime under the Nuremberg standard.
Torture, then, was a second Bush regime crime used to produce an alibi for the illegal and unprovoked US invasion of Iraq.
U.S. Representative Ron Paul (R,Tx) understands the danger to Americans of permitting government to violate the law. In “Torturing the Rule of Law”, he said that the US government’s use of torture to produce excuses for illegal actions is the most radicalizing force at work today. “The fact that our government engages in evil behavior under the auspices of the American people is what poses the greatest threat to the American people, and it must not be allowed to stand.”
One might think that the American public’s toleration of torture reflects the breakdown of the country’s Christian faith. Alas, a recent poll released by the Pew Forum reveals that most white Christian evangelicals and white Catholics condone torture. In contrast, only a minority of those who seldom or never attend church services condone torture.
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What is torture ?
What is this ? I have been tortured for quite some time trying to satisfy my governments appetite for tax money...
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The United states has not had a collective conscience
Since the civil war.
We need to get it back - You are right, religion, which was not part of the establishment of the U.S., leads to coercion and eventually torture - look at the inquizition, the purging of the cathars, and all the other injustices and butchery done in the name of religion.
Karl Marx was right about one thing, religion is the opiate of the masses. It can be used to manipulate people to do almost anything.
Barbaric...
I am so sickened and ashamed, disgusted, pissed off
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Why do religious
people condone torture?
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WHAT mindset is this
I'm religious & I DO NOT condone torture...PLEASE, get your facts straight..
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I cannot fathom the justifications
or the silence...!!
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I am a Christian and I don't condone torture,
and for the life of me, I can't understand at all why Christians do. I simply cannot find anything in scripture that would condone it. There isn't. Whenever I try to tell Christians about the stuff going on in this country they smile, and say "Oh, I know, but don't worry, I don't listen to the media or trust the govt, and I only listen to FOX. ARRRRGGGHHHHHHH
Makes me want to scream.
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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
Well we don't "know"
that this is why but....
It is not an unreasonable premise.
It is interesting Cookies Work for getting info... Torture doesn't.
The attribute of Mercy Exceeds the attribute of Judgment 500 fold !
Exodus 20:5,6
I completely agree
It's so nice to hear his voice. Thank you
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Ron Paul "Torturing the Rule of Law" ~listen
http://lewrockwell.com/paul/paul530.html
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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
Conscience.... Anyone?
Shameless bump for evening crew! Please read the full article!
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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd