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Rock on Adam
Yea this is an old video but so what. I see new RP supporters everyday on myspace that are for the first time just watching some of the great you tube RP debate videos etc. They are posting them like mad and saying Holy Shiznit this guy rocks!! Have you seen this? Instead of writing them and saying-Hey man this is old where have you been? I let them get sucked in and relish in that feeling we first had when we first asked that question, Who is this guy Ron Paul on the stage that has my full attention?
Adam is out there now on the front lines of the Liberty movement. He has a voice that is strong and loud. Dr. Paul does not. They both are fighting for the same thing. Maybe it ads a little balance to the movement. So people need a reserved intellectual to open their ears and some might need a Fired up, passionate young man to open theirs.
"I don't want to be in a battle . . . but
waiting on the edge of one I can't escape
is even worse"
"I have found that being rich is not about having the most but about needing the least"
Personally
I think he's better off as an activist rather than a Congressman. He has a long shot running imo
Where is the love?
Where is the love?
July16, 2008
almost a year old
I have never commented on a Kokesh thread until now ...
My gut tells me to stay away from this guy, but C4L has endorsed him.
I think it was a mistake for C4L to endorse him, but I will honor their words, "I urge you to go to www.KokeshforCongress.com and support him in anyway you feel comfortable." and do only what I feel comfortable doing. I will remain silent on Kokesh.
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
Please elaborate
Please let us know what your digestive track is telling you about Adam Kokesh?
Or are you just practicing your Bill O'Really impression?
Wow hypocritical!
I will remain silent... After this post right? The guy got assaulted doing what americans are allowed to do... Be free. Shame on Adam for having emotions. Man this site is full of hypocrites!
rhino has been known for 2 years to be this way..
He's not 100% with us if you know what I mean ,, wink wink, nudge nudge...
you have no idea what you're
you have no idea what you're talking about.
you have no idea what you're
you have no idea what you're talking about.
Adam, Keep on Rokin' In a
Adam, Keep on Rokin' In a Free World!
“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds”
-Sam Adams
“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds”
-Sam Adams
Adam K's future: what he wants to be. .
Is Adam K preparing himself to become a statesman and an ambassador of Liberty movement to represent even the opposing factions, including FBI & MPD community members? Will he be training himself to gain the power of persuasion with logic, emotionally detached calmness and charm?
Or is he more interested in becoming an icon and a lightening rod of angry mobs?
I think he has enormous talent and potentiality, but I will only invest in candidates with "long term" enduring quality.
-y
AS IF there were a "long term"
ytc...
Shut up Octobox! That was
Shut up Octobox! That was useless commentary.
Fastinated: Why can't I ask questions or challenge Adam
Are we a hive mind now?
We kicked the tar out of Obama for not being "qualified" -- short of his Birther status it's what we railed on the most -- that and his imagined policies based on his voting record; which was very short.
I thought you guys would actually "debate" instead you guys always resort to name calling -- that's all you got.
RP is the prototype for the kind of Congressman and Senators we want, right?
So, is it fair to do a compare and contrast?
Octobox
*&^ Constitution --- Constitutional Rationality
wtf- lol
k octo- yet another judgmental argument by you who claims to be for liberty. i watched the you tube and dont see anything wrong with what adam did or said. of course, words are just words to me. it is what is in the intention that is important and what adam says at the end- that police and law enforcement be held accountable for EVERYTHING they do. this was clearly bogus if it all went down as the video shows- the guy pulls the lawyer over for being in the way? what? and they take adams phone after a 10-33 is radioed, AGAIN, clearly this officer was NOT in trouble in any way shape or form unless you count his I AM THE LAW attitude. do we need the millions of law enforcement officers to protect the patriot act? since when is it unlawful to take pictures on a public street? law enforcement does it to me EVERY TIME i drive through town at EVERY stoplight. i dont take their cameras from them. when will this end?
~peace
~peace
Freespeech: In your first sentence you show you do not
understand that "dissent" (according to Jesse Ventura) is the Patriotic perjorative!!
Do you understand that - or should I fall in goose step with what the hive mind has decided?
I asked questions on Adam -- why is that wrong.
We railed the media for not doing due diligence on Obama -- Now we have a dissatisfied soldier (welcome home) how want to be an elected official -- other than dissatisfaction, what are his qualifications -- beyond impassioned speeches?
Just tell me how I'm supposed to vote -- maybe you can trim the crust off my bread and cut my meat for me okay Daddy okay Mommy?
Octobox
*&^ Constitution --- Constitutional Rationality
Adam Kokesh is no Ron Paul
Read all of my post before you respond.
He sounds bitter -- He has a right to be bitter, but Ron Paul has a 35 year justification to be bitter yet he is not.
RP is healed and Adam is not -- Get healed then run for office.
Adam is representative of the new generation of "angry" libertarian-individualist. He's not an individualist, not fully -- He wants to hold the police accountable rather than putting the blame where it truly belongs "the abdicating" civilian populace and the Federal Reserve -- which is what Ron Paul does.
RP Educates on Self-Rule and works to bring The Fed Down.
Welfare Police need to become Free-Market Privatized Police -- PERIOD!!!
Only civilians can make that happen. You can't FIX (toward individual-liberty) a self-abdicating problem -- it's oxymoronic, smile.
Anarchy does not mean "better police rule" -- it means "self rule."
The hallmark of individualism is a non-forceful and gentlemanly nature -- in this video he is cursing and does not sound "healed" from his military and political adventures.
He needs to heal first or he will not have a long time horizon -- Not because the Police State will kill him. His health will not hold out -- Bitterness is not a reflective or meditative quality.
We need Ron Paul-types on the Street and in the House.
Cursing is always a sign of a bankrupt intellect -- though there are times when it is appropriate; slamming your hand in the door -- having to go back to the burrito stand because they messed up your order -- and comcast going down. That's about it. Hahahahaha.
When I train the Cops and the Military I have a very strict no cursing policy -- They must do squats and suck their thumb if they mis-behave in front of me, hahahahahahaha. Actually that goes for any whining or negative speech.
My mother made me do that when I was young (less the squats). And you know what -- I loved her for that and deeply respected her. To this day I never curse.
Flame On!
Octobox
*&^ Constitution --- Constitutional Rationality
Ron Paul has recently
Ron Paul has recently endorsed Adam Kokesh. So if you think AK is no RP, then you might want to think twice about that.
Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/Ron2012Paul
Sometimes I get the
Sometimes I get the impression that you have a very strange and warped sense of liberty.
It's as if you believe in liberty only when it's convenient. Whenever the conversation is about a police officer who is doing wrong, abusing their power or infringing upon someone's rights - then it's the victim who is "bitter" and you attempt to belittle their pursuit of justice against the offending officer.
You know, police are human too and it is possible for them to be wrong at times.
...
John2K -- Adam is not the "victim" -- And you are wrong
Never once have I said the victim is bitter -- that's a lie.
Is lying now part of the game -- or did you make an honest mistake?
I've never belittled a victim -- who is the victim, Adam?
I never belittle a victimes persuit -- how do justify such commentary.
As for police -- I've said it 10,000 times: 1 bad cop = 1 fired cop
That's fair to me -- Work hard against that one cop.
If you want to change the system then you must turn to where you have power -- self-rule, coordinated counter-economics, consumer-union, or whatever.
All that being said -- What's wrong with challenging Adam over his "leadership skills" when we beat the living hell out of Obama over it -- nothing "convenient" about it -- I'm saying let's stay consistent.
Octobox
*&^ Constitution --- Constitutional Rationality
THE MAN has the CAJONES needed to fertalize lady liberty and si
E-Motion is powerful... It is Energy IN Motion..
It is the Interface between the Spirit world and the Material world.
Emotion is the Power of Manifestation..
His E-motion is his power. Harness it, and use it with wisdom.
That is what he is doing.
Rock on...Adam.
He doesn't need to be "healed" of anything.
By healed you mean CASTRATED...
WayOfPeace -- It's very clear what I'm saying
I never said emotion is a bad thing or can't be used -- I'm saying, when he's on the house floor he better come with more than just emotion.
Also, we beat the hell out of Obama over his lack of leadership skill to be president -- so I'm questioning Adam's.
It's fair to question him.
I remember when most of DP was lock-step with Beck -- Then I brought up the first posts/threads questioning him -- also, I brought up the first post/threads regarding getting our message hijacked (after that then all the Tea Parties came out).
I am questioning Adam -- Doing my own due dilligence.
If you can't answer my questions then it's because you don't know yourself and thus are excepting him on face value.
This may or may not prove to be a mistake -- however, it is a policy of chosing RP-type candidates then it will bite us in the future.
Octobox
*&^ Constitution --- Constitutional Rationality
it's never clear what you're saying
"I'm saying, when he's on the house floor he better come with more than just emotion."
ahhhh remember this......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=funm-ukrhvE
"I remember when most of DP was lock-step with Beck -- Then I brought up the first posts/threads questioning him -- also, I brought up the first post/threads regarding getting our message hijacked (after that then all the Tea Parties came out)."
????uuuuuhhhhhh ok, whatever you say?????????????????
"I am questioning Adam -- Doing my own due dilligence."
octo is an authoritarian and Adam threatens his very existent and way of life. Adam will fight these thug police with everything he has. octo views him as a peasant salve rising up against him and his authoritarian jackbooted buddy's. Adam is a real man that knows his rights and that threatens these fake police that like to intimidate people and violate their bill of rights on a daily basis. Adam will not lick these pigs boots and octo and his kind don't want more rebellious slaves like Adam calling their bluff.
I'm Adam Kokesh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8h_v_our_Q
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`Wise people, even though all laws were abolished, would still lead the same life'- Aristophanes -
“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
Step in Adam's shoes
and do what he is doing... not just writing these long rants of yours (which I personally find often enough rather condescending).
Anyhow, Adam is putting the money where his mouth is, travelling the country far and wide, fighting for liberty. These come in all shapes and sizes and all presenting themselves as they are.. like it or lump it. Adam Kokesh is a very well respected and loved person who stands by his word.
Btw.. please remember sometimes that you don't have to be a teacher 24/7 especially when considering writing another rant here.
Hannah2: "octobox" is a username -- "hannah2" is a username
Behind our usernames is nothing (less we give it) -- There is nothing but ideas.
It's the ultimate freedom.
I could create a new username -- come back in here -- change my writing style and have you as a best friend. You couldn't stop it. I could study your posts and agree with you on everything.
I don't buddy up with people who agree -- I look for people who disagree so I can perfect my line of reasoning.
I love to be proven wrong -- When I am I concede the point. I've done this a few times on DP.
Make a strong argument (not slavish emotionalism) for Adam and I will vote for him -- I will give long rants (articulated) on why everyone should vote for him.
What are his qualifications (based on past jobs and leadership)? -- The same test we railed the media for not performing on Obama. Let's stick to our standards for electibility.
Octobox
*&^ Constitution --- Constitutional Rationality
I was cursing yesterday
because of realizing that another baby has become the victim of inoculations and this time, close to home! I may curse some more today. Makes me mad as f**ckin' heii. Cursing is NOT ALWAYS a sign of a bankrupt intellect. Sometimes it is a sign of total exasperated indignation at the criminal behavior of other human beings. And I'll bet you would have loved your mother even if she hadn't made you suck your thumb for cursing.
LaughLoveLearn -- LaughLoveLearnCurse? Hahahaha
There are moments of righteous anger and in those moments behave as you see fit.
I'm talking about an elected public leader and a conscious-choice not to be typical or angry at every perceived injustice.
One can only sound overtly patriotic for so long -- eventually returning to their normal demeanor, less we have another Beck on our hands weaping on the skits of lady liberty -- as if!! I'm not referring to Adam, per se.
Octobox
*&^ Constitution --- Constitutional Rationality
Again
It seems that Octo makes himself look like a fool with very little help from the rest of us here at DP. I liked it better before his comments/posts started popping up.
Guardian -- You guys love me -- You constantly speak in the
"we" collectivist format.
Speak for youself -- you don't have to rally support.
I asked legitimate questions -- We are trying to get RP-types in office.
Is Adam an RP-type? If so, how, why -- by what set of qualifications?
Due Diligence is what we railed the media for not doing with Obama.
Do we suspend our rhetoric when its inconvenient?
Why can't we question Adam -- Call him out?
Octobox
*&^ Constitution --- Constitutional Rationality
How many of these rants do you write a day?
"Get healed then run for office"
How about you get educated before spewing all over the Daily Paul?
All of this stuff about sucking thumbs and doing squats while worshiping Ron Paul is total bullshit.
You're not in the trenches of this War--you're just the peanut gallery making nit picks. That's great. Whoopie. Yeah, if you were there you would be so much more of a man. bla bla bla...
BTW, what office are you running for again?
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Glen Beck -- An Exposed Enemy:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/90198
Glenn Beck Supports NAFTA and taking your job:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/86643
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Glen Beck -- An Exposed Enemy:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/90198
Glenn Beck Supports NAFTA and taking your job:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/86643