UN and US Controls All Water on Private Property

time. I live in southern Colorado. Colorado lost their peoples' rights to water to better lawyers from California, Nevada Kansas and Arkansas. Each rain drop that hits my land belongs to Kansas (I'm east of the contentinal divide). The EPA has made it clear that the will prosecute me if I attempt to capture and use rain water. They have their eyes on my ground water as well. Hell, using grey water (water that drains from sinks, tubs, showers - not toilets) is illegal. My plan was to pipe grey water to the garden and send only black water to the septic system. The EPA is their enforcemnt arm. I fought the ground water water issues in the late 90's, using competent, but very expensive, water attorneys from Denver (and, yuk, Bolder). Bottom line was our chance of winning was very slim, and the result of willing would be to be able to declare that we beat them - no real change in my access to water.

Looks like I'll be heading into round 2 with them regarding surface water. The only allowabe damming of "natural" waterways is to prevent erosion and the silting of the federal (Corp of Engineers) water collecting facilities. I live in a rather arid forrested area, and fire is my biggest concern - the moisture content of the living trees is about that of kiln dried wood you buy at the lumber yard. I am planning a 2 acre holding pond in an aroroya (sp? basically a dry creek bed that flowed water prior to long wall coal mining, which drained the creek) . I plan to dam the aroya, with a spillway, so my community has an accessable source for water to fight fires. Seems like a reasonable and rational thing to do, rather than something I'll end up broke and in jail over. I'm actually amazed at how few EPR workers turn up missing! We are all well armed, and most of us have earth moving equipment (backhoes, dozers, etc).

I apologize if this comment doesn't dovetail with the posted video, but my internet connection is too slow to view on-line video.

Ron Paul - Hope for America

Once again...
This ONLY concerns the waters of "the United States" which is water in Federal Zones.
Just one more reason to know the difference between "United States" and "the 50 states"
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt/Citizenship/WhyAN...

by the year 2029 is a figure I've read. Beware! They're coming for most of us for time is running out.

hmmm great way to start off my morning pissed off.... I have absolute water rights on my farm. a 3 cubic feet per second spring that I irrigate
80 acres of pasture land, I have 12 free flowing springs also. I built a 100' x 80' fishing pond.. so now these jerk offs in DC say they own them.... lol..

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

priority list! We need a priority list! I'm not for trying to curtail other's freedom of expression, rather, we need a segment for absolute priorities that mirror the C4L's priorities. Is this a good idea? I think so!

they can keep people from collecting rainwater? People have to have water.

When congress writes their laws, they have at their disposal a few different ways to use the term "United States".

1. United States meaning a member of the league of sovereign nations...eg: Germany, Brazil, India, United States.
2. United States meaning the 50 Union States, the United States of America
3. United States meaning the legal name of Washington D.C. and the enumerated Federal Territories, Guam, American Samoa, Puerto Rico, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, etc.

Congress will use the legal definition of the term United States in the statute without properly describing which usage they are using in that statute....the definition of the particular United States will be in another section well removed from the actual law written. So you have to research the various definition sections of that Title of the US code and then find out which United States they are referring to.

It gets even more confusing in the definition section when they describe DC as a State and the various Territories as a State, or States. One has to remember that Washington DC is not part of the 50 Union States and is a foreign country(State) to the 50 States of the Union, as are the Federal Territories(States). So the United States is a different country than the United States of America. Follow? It does make sense after you remember some basic government we were taught way back when.

So, when reading the Senate Bill 787 go into the text of the Bill and find the Title of the US Code where the legislation draws its authority from, in this case, it is Title 33 Section 1251 which is the Federal Water Pollution Control Act of 1972...they tell you in the bill itself.

Next, do a google search for 33 USC (open a new tab) and type in definitions in the search box for that title. You will come to a number of definition sections and go thru them until the term United States or State is defined for that Title. You may have to do some digging.

In this case the definitions section is 33 USC Sec 1362, here a State means DC, Guam, American Samoa, etc.

It does not mean the United States of America. When congress includes the 50 States , they will define the term as the 50 union States or the several States as mentioned in the Constitution.

So whenever you see a law passed that will subject one's property to the legislative jurisdiction of the United States, think federal United States first, then research the law in the proper US Code Title. Hope this helps.

Here is the link. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/33/usc_sec_33_00001362----...

It appears that this bill is for the Federal Territories and DC, not the US of America.

I mean, it is not like they want 90% of us dead or anything. Oh, wait...

Thanks for these posts.