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Why the CONSPIRACY THEORIES on this site are so ridiculous. (9/11, chemtrails, moon landing)

What makes these conspiracy theories so unlikely to be true is that there are absolutely no leaks from anyone who took part in the alleged conspiracy, or from any friends or family of any of the conspirators. These things would have to take a lot of manpower, and these people would have husbands and wives that they would confide in, and these would talk to other family members and friends and so on. Surely SOMEONE out of all these people would spill the beans and want to become a national hero. The secret would get out. This is what makes these theories of SECRET conspiracies so ridiculous. This is not to say there may be some events that some people try to secretely orchestrate but to get away with them they would have to be on a very small scale, and still it's very likely there would be leak and everyone would find out about it (and history shows they have been revealed through leaks by someone involved, or a friend or family member of someone involved). The more extravagant the event and the more planning would have to go into it, the less likely it's the hoax or conspiracy it's alleged to be. And with each passing hour that there are no leaks, the even less likely.

9/11 inside job = bogus (Dr. Paul says it was blowback, btw)
Chemtrails = bogus
Moon landing faked = bogus

Come down to Earth, people.



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Paging Dr. Occam...

Dr. Occam, please report to the barber chair... Mr. Knee-Jerk needs a shave... Paging Dr. Occam.

Certainly there are times when a complex answer is needed to explain the truth, but often it is still less complex than the emotionally guided alternatives.

In any event, unemotional refinement is the key. If you "have a dog in this fight" (no matter which side), you WILL be biased.

This is not as simple as it seems... Dig DEEP.
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It's OK Devon...

I was simply commiserating with you.

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"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece

yes

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secrets are very hard to keep

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"Yes" what?!?

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or
secrets are very hard to keep?

Ya think it would kill you to put a freaking line between your posts, and your sig?
I know it takes more effort to hit the enter key, and the arrow keys a couple of extra times, but c'mon.

It just shows a kind of laziness no? Not to mention it is annoying.

Sorry to bump this ridiculous tripe.
Carry on.

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hm

I've had that on there so long I pretty much forgot about it.

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LET THIS THREAD GO

OneLive is probably someone who is for the New World Order. Even a cave man knows that 911 was an inside job.

So DON'T post on this thread anymore. Let this one GO!!

Create another thread promoting the truth.

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You mean this one?

I love this fallback position: "If someone disagrees with my conspiracy theory they too must be part of the conspiracy." There's a wonderful circularity to your insanity.

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Let me add to your list

Let me add to your list OneLive, because conspiracy theorists really annoy me too.

1. CIA overthrow of Mohammad Mossadegh in 1953 = bogus

2. Gulf of Tonkin was staged to get us into the Vietnam war = bogus

3. Joint Chiefs of Staff presented Kennedy with Operation Northwoods = bogus

all of which

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were leaked

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...Well after the fact

**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **

"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece

So...is this a leak?

Or, must it somehow make it to CNN for its credibility stamp?

http://projectcamelot.org/elizabeth_nelson_flight_93.html

**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **

"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece

If nonsensical posts were of interest to me, I'd get.......

all of my news/information from the MSM (i.e, Fox News, CNN, CNBC, etc.). All conspiracy theories are bogus? What a ridiculous statement. The information which has come forward on 911 alone proving various inconsistencies is enormous. Much of the subject matter we discuss on this forum is "conspiracy theory" in nature. The Fed, International Bankers such as the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, election fraud, the delegate process, etc. My God, open your ears and eyes for the world will truly unveil and reveal its secrets if you allow it to.

On "debunkers" - stockboards, and ae911truth.org

For those people arguing with posters like onelinve, bb, etc. One needs to learn from the stock message boards. Here you will have guys posting every day, tens of times a day, replying to every post, arguing, arguing, arguing, in a never ending cycle.

It's clear that these are not sincere people who are interested in anything other than obfuscation and discrediting any place where 911 is being discussed. Too many people here seem to think that these are sincere people who somehow can be educated or can learn.

If they can take a 911 thread and make it seem like this is where people post who hold extreme views, who are a bit off, who are anti-semites, etc., then their day is done and their mission is accomplished.

So some method has to be thought of to disincentivize these people. Right now all of the incentives are in their favor. This is why I came up with the idea of donating a small amount to http://www.ae911truth.org for EACH time that they post. Sort of a money bomb, if you will. Yesterday, I almost bankrupted myself, since I set the cost of each of their posts way too high. Maybe 20 cents a post would be better (I had picked 10-20 dollars!). But these guys post so often, even at 20 cents a post, you need to have some serious change. But if at least a dozen people would go for this idea, I think it would help. Sort of like donating to charity for each mile your kid runs at school. This would convert negative energy to positive.

No leaks?

They admit to conspiring against us.

"For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a SECRET CABAL working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of CONSPIRING with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller

Now wait...

you know they're just going to say that Rockefeller was being misquoted in his own biography... then call you crazy, then lump this quote in with chemtrails, 911 and pyroclastic penguins for Jesus.

Funny, isn't it... that those who believe there is no such thing as a conspiracy eventually show themselves as people who actually have no understanding of the world around them...

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here's the thing

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Rockefeller's actions aren't really secret, they're mostly quite publicly available, but by means of his fabian reformist approach, no indivudal action seems outrageous to the general public.

The general point about conspiracies is well taken, the bigger the scale, the harder to enact. That said, it certainly doesn't mean there aren't conspiracies, but it is a factor to consider when evaluating the reality of a given situation.

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After All, remember the line by Mel Gibson's character......

in the movie "Conspiracy Theory ": "That's what makes it a good conspiracy, it can't be proven". Many of us would argue the aforementioned of course. Especially with reference to the more historically recent 9/11.

Let's see: An inordinate

Let's see: An inordinate number of posts bashing all conspiracy theories, a major spam bot attack over the weekend, and 9/11 videos being automatically removed from Facebook -- did we just hit a nerve?

Dunno...

I hope so... seems like we're picking up steam lately in the 911 arena. Things sometimes kick and scream as they die... bad ideas do as well.

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which nerve ?

It really depends on who is doing all "this".

It may be that the "NWO" is "scared" or it may be that some people are just tired of hearing the same old tired garbage, and want you to stop being so foolish. Screaming whining children are tiresome. You don't want them to shut up because they might expose your plot or because you can't handle the truth they speak, you want them to shut up because they are annoying.

Its actually more example of a PPD that you think that someone would care about what you do on this level.

I will shut up....

If you can give me one plausible explanation for the collapse of WTC7.

Odd...

Your reply/rant sounds pretty childish to me... if threads like this annoy you, as an adult can you CHOOSE to not read it?

Or do you reply just because you've been spanked so many times on 911 threads that it's just a kneejerk reaction to you now...

Childish indeed.

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Do you call that post a rant ? ?

Hardly.

I was merely suggesting that opposition to 911 threads was not at all related to the truthers "getting closer" or making headway" - whatever that really means. I was suggesting that the opposition comes from a loss of patience with the same old tiresome circular logic, The same old tactic of answering a question with a question.

I have as much right to participate in this forum as anyone, probably more than alot of people - note my startup date - needless to say I'm tired of the conspiracy buffones hijacking the site, and hurting the freedom movement. I don't go to prison planet and post, why can't you take your junk there? Ron paul doesn't even share your beliefs on 911.

As far as being spanked - keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel good.

OK...

To quote you....

some people are just tired of hearing the same old tired garbage, and want you to stop being so foolish. Screaming whining children are tiresome. You don't want them to shut up because they might expose your plot or because you can't handle the truth they speak, you want them to shut up because they are annoying.

That is a rant.. I would call it childish. I didn't write it, you did. I am merely pointing out in that attempting to call me childish, you have just once again proven that you are acting like what you are accusing me of.

Again, if you are tired of the same circular logic that you keep trying to use to prove that gravity is relative, 600 = 1100 and kinetic energy is above your head.. then why do you keep coming onto 911 threads? One must assume at this point that you either don't understand that the site owner allows it for a reason and the reason itself escapes you (possible) or that you continue your attacks on 911 threads because you need the attention (probable).

I did not start this litte rant.. you did. I posted a thought on the current situation and you whined about it. You did that. YOU. Try to take a little personal responsibility for your actions, please.

I could care less if you participate on this forum.. it's not mine. To think that you've scored any points with anyone at all with your fatally flawed logic is laughable... but as you say... as long as failing like you do makes you feel good, then we'll have to live with it.

I'ma end it there... I've no patience today for someone that has a brain and an internet connection, but seems to be able to use neither.

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Oh my God

what a drama queen. I provide an explanation that is different (and better) than the "we're on the move, they're on the run" mantra, and you get your panties all in a bunch. Your arrogance is astounding. Look, pointing out your arrogance - your "thought on the current situation" that people somewhere are really worried about you finding the truth, is not whining. I just thought you should know that there is in fact an alternate explanation that was much more credible.

Next thing you will be saying that (hey Devon, you are wrong) is a rant as well.

And then the - oh you don't understand science bit - even more tired arguments. oooh look the needle is melting . . . what a crock. You'd believe anything.
I've never tried to prove gravity is relative. Is your whole argument about putting words in other peoples mouths ? I posted my actual beliefs for the first time yesterday, but it works better if you put words in my mouth, doesn't it.

Why I keep coming to the 911 threads - so that the world knows that not all RP supporters are truthers. I am surprised that Michael allows all the 911 and other conspiracy threads, I conclude that he isa very open minded individual that does not like to limit discussion, and is willing to risk the consequences, and ridicule to stick with his values. an admirable, but risky strategy if the idea is to advance a political idea.

--Now that was a rant.

Your a truely sad individual

"I've never tried to prove gravity is relative. Is your whole argument about putting words in other peoples mouths ? I posted my actual beliefs for the first time yesterday, but it works better if you put words in my mouth, doesn't it."

Actually yours and anyone else for that matter who refutes the truth use your form of argument consistently. Slander, defensive wounded heart back pedaling and very actively avoiding questions or answering them with questions.

Either way you posts in this thread have been pure childish drivel.

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All these attacks over the past year

have been timed with Michael leaving or being indisposed.
I noticed this long ago.
They watch, and when he's gone, they move in.
It's not some coincidence.

Interesting point.

Interesting point.

So What About Pearl Harbor or the Gulf of Tonkin?

or i could list off any number of lies from them...like we need the fed for utopia. Or social security. Do you know anything about engineering or physics? You have any Idea what kind of a caree risk 700 engineers and architects are taking by publiclic supporting 911 truth?

Was there a leak about the gulf of tonkin being a staged anytime during the Vietnam war error. What do you suppose happend to the people that claimed it was at that time?

Even today you get called a nut when you tell people FDR let pearl harbor happen to bring us into world war II, but there are plenty of witnesses and documents that support that claim.

Its a common trend the government allow events to occur that they had prior knowledge of or stages an attack to bring the public behind war. Are you sure your brain is working properly? The human brain is set up to be one the of the better pattern recognition machines on the planet and you don't see the pattern here at all?

You believing what the government tells you is what shouldn't be allowed on this site. You trying to moderate the speech on this site is completely hypocritical and you should just forget about being apart of the freedom movement!