218 Will NOT Move it out of Committee - Here's Why

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Q: "What does it take to get this bill out of committee and on the floor of the House for a vote?"

A: It is possible the bill will be tabled, or die, while in committee. Committees were formed originally to have focus groups, but their modern usage merely serves to endow the committee chairs from the majority parties with a lot of power, and to stifle the minority party's bills from ever reaching the House floor.

To pass, the committee must have quorum - the necessary amount of representatives present to vote on it - and passing requires a majority of those in attendance at committee before moving to a House vote where only a simple majority of 218 is needed. This process is described here, see page 21/67.

Currently, 34 co-sponsors are on the Financial Services Committee of 71 members, so just two more co-sponsors would give the bill a majority! Please check the roster to the right. Attached here is a spreadsheet with all current co-signers on pages 1-5, and the Financial Services committee members all on page 6. In the file, just click on their name to visit their website and contact them.

Q: "How many co-sponsors does it need to force that? Or does that even matter?"

A: The number of co-sponsors technically does not matter, and co-sponsors are not obligated to vote for the bill. However, it serve as an indicator of the minimum support a bill expected on the House floor, so is a key indicator while in committee. While bills are in committee, they can be marked up and amended, which is why the simplicity of Paul's bill is key - there is simply not much to mark up.

Q: "What if the Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) continues to postpone a vote on HR 1207?"

A: Representative Barney Frank, D-MA, is the Chair of the Financial Services committee. He has not co-signed the bill, and traditionally is allied closely with the banking special interests and the FED, so no cooperation can be expected from him. Frank has spoken about Paul, HR 1207, and committee politics - and boldly proclaiming that there is no inflation while inflation remains high at 7%.

However, page 20/67 states that "three or more members of a standing committee may file with the committee a written request that the chairman call a special meeting" to force a vote.

Furthermore, the rules also state that the committee may be "discharged" or circumvented if a majority of Representatives (218) have signed a motion to discharge the bill from committee. (pages 31-32/67)

Obviously, to help secure the bill's passage, a majority of co-signers - just 11 more would be helpful. The most prudent path still appears to move the bill through committee, and secure a couple more committee members as co-signers. Writing a quick note to Financial Services committee would also help.

Q: "What is the gravest threat to the bill?"

A: I happen to believe that if this bill can be approved by Congress and delivered to the President, he would sign it per all of his rhetoric about an open government and transparency. A win in the House now appears likely, so I would say the gravest threat is that the bill will die in the Senate. Senator Bernard Sanders (I-VT) has sponsored S 604, the "Federal Reserve Sunshine Act of 2009." The text of the bill is currently identical to HR 1207, but Sanders has zero co-sponsors.

Therefore, activists should target their U.S. Senator's offices. I recommend using DownsizeDC's "Audit the FED" Campaign to thank or urge your representative and Senators to co-sign this bill. However, writing directly to your Senator's office and placing a phone call are also recommended.

An action item summary:

1. Contact your Representative or target a few from the list above. If two (2) more members of the Financial Services Committee co-sign, HR 1207 will be assured of passing committee unchanged. If eleven (11) more members of the House co-sign, HR 1207 will be assured of passing the House.

2. Write a note to the Financial Services Committee, urging them to vote on HR 1207 and pass it unamended.

3. Urge your Senators to co-sign S 604 by DownsizeDC, but also by email and phone.

4. Spread the word to friends and family about the impact of this bill. Education is key!

Rely on sites like Campaign for Liberty and Liberty Maven to keep up with the current status. Shelly Roche and the gang at www.BreakTheMatrix.com is doing a nice job as well!

Remember HR 1207 is not just an audit of the FED, it is an audit of your local Representative!

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No matter what, this is a victory!

No matter what happens to this bill from now on this is a victory. Think of how many people and Congressman we've informed about why it is important to audit the Federal Reserve. This bill has been introduced for a few decades and never has it gotten so many co-sponsors. Never has their been mainstream media outlets having to defend the secrecy of the FED. Even if this doesn't get passed this is a victory. People are going to want to know why can't we audit the Federal Reserve!

However, that doesn't mean we should quit.

I agree, but we shouldn't

I agree, but we shouldn't give up our efforts in getting it passed into law.

The ENTIRE House might

pass this bill.

Is this really a concern

Is this really a concern anymore? With the latest information, 36 of the 71 Financial Services Committee members have signed on as cosponsors. That's a majority!!! 50.7%!

Yes, a member could become a cosponsor and not vote for the bill, but I find that unlikely, and Ron Paul would fight till he died to ensure the bill doesn't get amended. In my eyes, this bill has passed the committee and the House as we have a majority there as well. It's time to focus on the Senate and start sending them email bombs and hope the bill stays in committee for the time being until it gets 290 cosponsors.

Surprize!!!!!

I learn in this post, the figure being shown for weeks, 218, was a lie, employed as a goal, and NOW that we reached that goal, it's time to tell us that this also means our local representatives will be audited.

I wonder how many congresspeople see that as a direct threat? And what protection does anyone have against a congressperson who feels threatened? After all, there is a MSM media accusing Ron Paul supporters of being racists, terrorists, etc....?

"Just when you think you won the rat race, along comes the fat cat".

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When the author of this article

referred to reps being audited, I could be wrong, but I think he was talking about knowing which ones support auditing the fed and which don't. Not that they would actually be subjected to an accounting audit.

thanks for the info

you be sure that the people of the FED work already on bribing all Senate members that they think will vote for it. They print the money so for them it is no big deal.
Someone should map the special interest and bank connections of the FED and the Senators and put it up on the net.
That is an urgent matter!!!

oliver robert ike

I say thank you too...Good info but...

I fear this bill's fate in the Senate.

With the likes of the uninformed socialist McCain present we can be sure of no support.

I'll bet the Fed is frantically at work on members of the Senate who they think might cosponsor this bill.

I don't think they have too much work cut out for them though. Most of the Senate are either ignorant or unethical.

Remember their support of the bailout in October after Congress voted it down the first time.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Don't be discouraged

Even if it doesn't pass, it will expose those who are under the fed's control or employ. This bill is brilliant in so many ways.

expose through a double mirror

goes both ways

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Great point!

Roaches hate the light!
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Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

What's next after End the Fed? Repeal the XVI and XVII Amendments!

But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers

There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer

huge point

This bill, if it passes will be amazing. If not, we will know who we need to kick out of office as soon as possible, and the results will be amazing. Win win situation.

- Luke

Thanks

This is exactly what I was wondering about.

Smart targeting.

Let's bump this

for step two. Come on guys and gals.

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

i think its now safe

to start calling senators and less reps beacuase thats where the trouble will be

I disagree. I think the

I disagree. I think the more overwhelming the amount of House members we get, the more likely Senators will sign onto it. I say we get all of the House members. That sends a signal.

my thoughts exactly e. 290 and more.

not everyone who co-sponsors is going to come out swinging.

every member should be the goal. BUT 290 will stop the veto.

i've been saying this right along - what happens in the house will determine what happens in the senate.

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Don't miss the

Don't miss the DIGG!

http://digg.com/politics/Audit_the_Fed_Bill_Reaches_218

Trust in God, but tie your camel tight.

"Socialism needs two legs on which to stand; a right and a left. While appearing to be in complete opposition to one another,they both march in the same direction." - Paul Proctor

Sunny, terrific research and strategy

advice, thanks.

hey guys i posted this for cactus.

my thread is the HR 1207 one. i will change it so it is his name.

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bump for sunny

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House rules

Furthermore, the rules also state that the committee may be "discharged" or circumvented if a majority of Representatives (218) have signed a motion to discharge the bill from committee. (pages 31-32/67)
HR 1207-222

Who is on the Committee?

Time to start calling.

What about a discharge petition?

It may not be the preferred route, but if it doesn't get out of committee then they have that option. Right?

I would think so...

based on the above (not having read the rules myself)...but remember the discharge would be a separate effort. I can envision many co-sponsors not signing the discharge.

Probably right

about some co-sponsors not willing to sign the petition, but I think it's important to know that all is not lost if Frank or Pelosi try to block it.

Here's the rule: http://www.rules.house.gov/archives/discharge_pet.htm

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Thank you for making everyone here aware*)
this glass of organic peach wine goes to your health Sunny*)
keep up on your terrific work on this issue.

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wow, could you e me some here?

peach wine sounds delicious.

thank you liberty once more for your beautiful kind words,
i have put so much into this thread and tonite watching it hit 222
just makes me cry.

it's so incredible, what is happening.

god bless the good doctor and we the people!

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such a wonderful moment in time

to see all of this hard work by so many come and produce good fruit...

I want to compose a poem tonight about you and other patriots restoring the Constitution.

peach wine kiss on the cheek*)

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