Libertarians should be reaching out to the gay and lesbian community! Edit2Submitted by sandbun on Sat, 06/13/2009 - 13:24
With Obama and the rest of the Dems spitting in the face of the gay and lesbian community every chance they get now that the election is over, we have a chance to expand our numbers and we don't have to compromise any of our beliefs! This is an opportunity that libertarian groups should be actively trying to take advantage of.
As RP has said, the government should not be involved in the marriage issue. However they have actively shoved their noses into it every chance they got. There are many rights given by the government to couples that get married. However the government has decided they get to decide which religious ceremonies are valid and which are not. This is as blatant as a violation of the separation between church and state as you will get! Either the government should recognize all religious ceremonies or none at all.
Look, if the government shouldn't be able to selectively give different rights to the couples based on whether the government approves of that couple or not. Libertarians should take the view that either the government doesn't give special rights to people who are married or it gives the right to all couples, regardless of the governments feeling on that couple. I say we push for marriage no longer be mentioned in any government documents, only civil unions (we don't want marriage and civil unions - our govt has tried 'separate but equal' before) and that legally binding coupling is open to anyone as long as they are of age and do so willingly, and leave marriage up to individual religious organizations.
And I haven't even touched Don't Ask Don't Tell yet. This is a policy by the federal government stating that you can only serve in a government organization (the armed forces) as long as you hide a fact about yourself that we don't like, even though it has no effect on your ability to do your job as a solder. Think about that! The govt telling you you have to hide your personality even though it has nothing to do with the job you're doing for the govt. This should be bullet point one when we point out that the govt has needlessly involved itself in what should be a private matter!
Look, I understand some people might not agree with the gay or lesbian lifestyle and I understand the 'icky' factor. But this is a logical extension of what we believe. I'm talking about reaching out and expanding our base to a vocal and active group of people who strongly believe in having the personal freedom to live life as you choose. If you'll excuse the pun, this is a marriage made in heaven!
EDIT: I'm seeing a lot of talk in the comments about going to gay and gay friendly websites and inviting them to join us. That's good. But we can't forget that it's not enough to ask them to join us, WE HAVE TO JOIN THEM. When we talk about govt intrusion in our lives, DADT should be at the top of the list. Libertarian speakers/mailing/everything need to go out of their way to mention their cause. The fact is most of us are former Republicans. Republicans have a bad rap of saying they're for small govt and less spending, but then doing the opposite. That's why most of us left that party. We have to show them that we're not like that, and that we will fight for their cause even if they don't join us for ours. That's how we will gain their respect and hopefully support. And even if they don't leave the Dems, we still do fight for them because it's the right thing to do.
EDIT 2: Alright, some people seem to be misunderstanding (in some cases purposely) what I am saying there. So to clarify, I am not claiming we should fight for extra rights for gays. I am not saying the govt should help gays push their believes on others. I am certainly not saying that pastors should not be allowed to preach about certain passages in the Bible.
What I am pointing out is that there is a large, active, vocal, and disproportionately voting group of people who are likely to feel betrayed by the people they voted for. I am willing to bet that many of these people would be particularly respective to the idea of limited govt right about now. Not all of them. Some of them do want extra rights and want the govt to fight on their behalf against people who have the right to think that what they are doing is wrong. But all many of them want is the govt not to care who they are sleeping with as long as it's consensual. And I think most of don't want the govt to care who we are sleeping with as long as it's consensual. So we have a point of common interest - we don't want the govt in our bedrooms. So all we have to do to get many of them to join us is make sure they know we don't want the govt in anyone's bedroom. That's right, all we have to do to increase our numbers is to say we don't want the govt in our bedrooms. Seems like a good idea to me then to publicly mention that fact.
As far as people saying that if they believe what we believe they've already likely to join us, if we take that view we are screwed. Royally and totally screwed. If everyone out there already knows our message and if they agree with it have already joined us, and we didn't do any better last election, we must as well close shop. It's over. But I don't think anyone here believes that. Many people haven't heard of us, or at least don't clearly understand what we stand for. Some do and agree with us, but just need a little push, an invite, a welcome mat, something to let them know that we are indeed the biggest tent in politics. To increase our numbers we need to let them know why a limited govt is the best possible govt for them. To the pot smokers, we tell them that a limited govt doesn't tell them what to put in their bodies. To people concerned about money issues, we tell them that ending the Fed keeps the dollar strong and keeps them from paying the inflation tax. To gays, we tell them that a limited govt doesn't care who they love.
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