At what point do we pack up or put up?
Submitted by Mruiz201 on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 23:30
The more I see what is going on in America, the more i think about my future. With a dismal economic forecast and legislation that further limits our liberties being passed everyday, I ask, When is enough enough? The Jews in Germany had plenty of signs of things to come. Yet they stayed and faced their demise. Are we in the same boat? I would put up a fight, but its a small majority who would stand by me. So when do I pack up and Leave? Where do i go?
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Green Street
I think the movie Green Street Hooligans can shed some light on this. If you haven't seen it, I HIGHLY recommend it. The message is to STAND YOUR GROUND. If you give up and run, they win. You lose, and you're going to lose in the end too. There is no running from this.
I came to this crossroads 24 yrs. ago...
looked around to see just how many of my friends and neighbors were behind me...only to find that most of the RAP...is just that RAP.
Well to say the least...I grabbed my young children ( before they did ) and headed down to paradise. Still here today...and so thankfull we made that choice when the time was "upon us" and ACTED !!!
I fear our greatest tool ( internet ) may be our greatest enemy. If we do not know when to turn it off and ACT...the whole thing is mute...dig it ?
Discover Costa Rica
Discover Costa Rica
I'll agree that your actions in the past...
have placed you in the fabled "catbird seat", but none the less I fear that you will still end up fighting for your freedom from where you are. There is no escape from greed but to vanquish it, it respects no boundarys, creeds or philosophies. Good luck and I support your acting on instincts - too many dispell their natural inclinations for exterior distortions of personal reality.
Assert Your Authority
Assert Your Authority
Run now and you will only...
delay the timing of confrontation. Run now and you will only face a larger and more powerful enemy later. Run now and you set a precedent for yourself that only assists the tryany you wish to oppose.
Assert Your Authority
Assert Your Authority
the more I look
the more solutions I find. Never give up, on peace or the american people.
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Start getting freedom today by dumping Federal Reserve Notes, Stocks, Banks and anything made outside the USA. Buy precious metals, real estate, businesses, food and guns and get your business community to use local or sound currenc
Name the solutions
please
pack-up
Forget this pack-up and leave nonsense! Last man and woman stand at all points!
Sadly, you WILL be standing
Sadly, you WILL be standing by yourself. Decades of gubermint run schools, four generations of warmongering, a society that gets all its news and entertainment from a box, has ruined this once great nation. I have tried and tried and tried and constantly gotten nowhere. THe old people are so into the shitsem that they don't want to lose their precious S.S.. The young are largely lazy and stupid. Yes, I know there are pockets of good who will fight, but we are so fragmented that it'll make no difference. Now with the tattle tale culture we have, anyone trying to organize a group of patriots will be narced out on. I say let it implode and come back and pick up the pieces later. The founding fathers never guaranteed it would last. In fact, they warned us of being complacent. We have been too lazy for too long. It's over. There is a collapse in the market coming that will scare the you know what out of most people and they will be frozen with fear instead of emboldened with patriotism, just like 911.
You Judge A Tree By It's Fruit, NOT its Flower
The opposite is happening
Its the Zionists Jews who are in control ever since 1913, get your facts strait! www.iamthewitness.com/
www.takeourworldback.com/
My karma ran over your dogma~
My karma ran over your dogma~
These are GREAT times you
These are GREAT times you are witnessing,..These are the times that try mens' souls..What are YOU made of ? Maintain till you no longer have a choice.. YOU are not alone , they only want you to believe you are alone....The media is a pack of manipulators so don't go by what you see or read... USE your brain..By my SPIRIT.
*They have to do it LEGALLY
Good people make the difference, you-no
Just yesterday I made up my
Just yesterday I made up my mind to leave. I am going to the NE of Brazil. You can buy a lot on the beach for less than 20K. Or you can go into the interior a little bit and it's cheaper yet. As to those who think it's dangerous there, the NE of the country is much less dangerous than the South like Sau Paulo or Rio. I've been there and there is definitely more freedom there. Why do you think all the Nazis went there?
The end is near for this economy/country. There is nothing here. And the police situation is going to get much worse. If anyone wants to go to where the climate is great, the food is wonderful, and the people are friendly, contact me and I'll help you discover Brazil.
Sorry DP'rs. I love my country but there simply are not enough people in our country that will stand beside us.
You Judge A Tree By It's Fruit, NOT its Flower
It will find you
Some of the U.S. problems you cited, which are driving you to run, are by design. And, while many of them are being fostered against the United States as a starting point, you will soon see the same or similar problems spread all over the world. Have you ever heard of the New United States Order? No - it's the New World Order, or, as Gordon Brown likes to call it, the New Global Order.
It doesn't matter where on the globe you plant your feet. At some point you will make a choice:
Run from it all you like, to every corner of the earth, but it will find you and you will be forced to make one of the choices above. You'll find yourself running from it until there's nowhere left to run.
Curious
For those not independently wealthy, how does one make a living in NE Brazil?
Are you independently
Are you independently wealthy here? How do you survive here? I'm planning on farming. ( the land is as good as the best US farmland and it's half the price too) Also, ANYONE can teach english there. It's a start at least. If you have an entreprenurial drive to you, there's opportunity no matter where you go.
I know poor people in Brazil who are driving brand new motorcycles from the chickens they hatched and sold to the big chicken farmers. You can get a guest house plus $400 a month if you are trustworthy simply for watching a wealthy persons property, a caretaker.
I'm looking to start an expatriate community. If anyones interested, let me know. Europeans are moving there in large numbers already.
One thing I love about Brazil is they hate their govt. They know it's bad and they largely ignore it.
You Judge A Tree By It's Fruit, NOT its Flower
Go for it. Northern Brazil was one of my choices also.
It matters not where you live. Freedom fighters are globally united, it's in our DNA. Just keep active, and point seekers to information, and always carry a Ron Paul temperment when amoung ignorance.
There are great areas for coastal sailing and exploration . . . see Isla Catalina. And, treks down to Argentina and Chilie, wow, ignites my explorer instincts.
And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”
And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”
Once a Ron Pauler, always a
Once a Ron Pauler, always a Ron Pauler. No matter where I go I will be a Patriot. I just wish before I leave I could meet you all, have a HUGE party and thank everyone for all they have done for me and my growth. I'm sad to be leaving, really am. I worry about everyone that is going to be fed to the beast. But hey, we all make choices. I wish all the Patriots here success and prosperity
You Judge A Tree By It's Fruit, NOT its Flower
Go where
GMO is not accepted and chemtrails are scares. Costa Rica is not a great choice, but is as close as I can figure out. Would love some input on this. However, I won't go without my extended family and that will never happen. Crazy.
"Harmonized"
With so many countries pressured to "harmonize" their laws with the US, it is difficult to escape the oppression. I have come to the conclusion it is better to invest in tangible assets, and that excludes politicians.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rajiva/rajiva19.html
I've made my choices, but they are unique to me. Be prepared for much hostility from friends and family.
"Where do i go?"
I am asking myself the same question.
Unfortunately, I haven't found any answer yet.
"Where Liberty dwells, there is my country." -- Benjamin Franklin
Leave, and go where?
Every time I ponder that possibility, I reach the conclusion that there isn't really any place I'd rather call home. Sure, we've got some real rats in Congress, who have basically sold us out to the international banking cabal that is now capable of "legislating" about anything they need. And if this doesn't get the job done for them, they simply move on the authority of "executive order". We've got 9 Supreme court justices that stand in the way of tyranny, or adhearence to the U.S. Constitution, and these people are so distracted that they can't even decide whether men ought to marry men, or women marry women. All one can do is sigh at the futility of the situation. And don't forget that these justices are no more than political appointees, and we know what that means in this day and age. But no, the answer is not to go anywhere. The answer is to wise up, look around, be aware of the fraud that is being shoved at you, and then simply adjust. Don't buy into their debt game, don't buy into their "mutual fund" game, their 401-K retirement dream game, or their super cop protection racket. Instead, make peace with the Lord, stay healthy, live in harmony with your neighbor, and like King Soloman said, eat, drink and be happy.
alan laney
Don't give up hope,
yet. I was pleasantly surprised to read an article in yesterday's paper that the firemen who filed a "reverse discrimination" lawsuit WON their case...5 to 4 ruling, btw...(Supreme Court)
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If America falls, there will
If America falls, there will be no where to hide. The banksters will use the U.N. to control everyone and everything every where. Keep waking people up and introduce military, police, and firemen to Oathkeepers at every opportunity. They may well turn the tide.
Pat
BOHICA!!
Pat
BOHICA!!
Our only hope is
waking others. This is a Information Revolution continue to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. I wonder if there had been the internet Hitler might have been exposed? It would take research to find expats and where they have gone, sorry I can't help. Good luck.
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Never Again
NEVER AGAIN
WE ARE GOING TO WIN!
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Where do we go?
I was born here, I'll die here.
Looking at the Jewish situation in Germany in the 1930's is instructive. It tells any people who want to survive, what not to do.
Gun control laws in Germany kept the people from defending themselves. When government seeks to disarm you, expect bad results. Unarmed people are easy "pickens". The simple truth is if you are unarmed, you live because those who are permit it.
And never follow the order to get into a cattle car. You're on borrowed time until they kill you at their convenience, at a place and time of their choosing.
Wrong
The Jewish bolshiveks in Russia killed 60 million, ten times more than the alleged holocau$t get your history strait!
http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/Jews.and.Communism.htm
I'm not condoning the germans, but get real.
www.takeourworldback.com
My karma ran over your dogma~
My karma ran over your dogma~
Added post: What will spark the Revolution?
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/88449
I truly believe that the country is already bankrupted.
The continued printing of money and devaluation of the dollar will soon render the U.S. impotent to maintain the empire, (either by design or incompetence). States cannot pay their bills either. The collapse is upon us. I wouldn't worry about the military or the police. They won't do jack without a paycheck. Congress is a "straw man" trying to fool Americans that they have things under control when they really know that they have one foot in deep doo doo and no clue (or power) to do anything about anything. They also try to scare you with idle threats and the ol' fear tactic. Additionally, sad to say, that most Americans do prefer "security over freedom" but, when the security is gone the "loyalty" to the government will end. So...my 2 cents is that it will be the further economic collapse that will bring about the Revolution. Hunger and uncertainty breeds revolution............
There is no place to go,
There is no place to go, stand and fight. Better to die on your feet then to live on your knees!
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