**An Inconvenient Truth - Vaccination WORKS**
OK, as much as I hate to waste more time on this topic, I just have to draw a line in the sand.
Immunization (the act of introducing antigens into an individual in order to prevent that individual from developing a specific disease in the future) works.
It is a principle that has been proven through countless controlled experiments, and was shown to work even before the germ theory was widely accepted by medical science.
But I do not know that vaccination works only from what I have read in textbooks and medical journals; I know it because I have proven it for myself.
Before I went to medical school, I worked for years as a lab technician for a company that produced veterinary medicine, including a wide variety of vaccines from cholera to rabies for small and large animals.
Not only did I help to produce the vaccines, I helped in the research and development of NEW vaccines.
I would produce the antigens by growing the pathogenic viruses or bacteria, prove that they could cause the diseases, process the antigenic proteins, combine them with adjuvants (chemicals that stimulate the host's immunogenic response), add preservatives, and bottle them for storage.
I would take the vaccines, dilute them into successively weaker solutions, and inject them into test animals. I would also inject a number of animals (the control group) with sterile saline, or with the vaccine components minus the test antigen. (All of the injections were prepared and coded ahead of time and randomized so that even I would not know which animal was receiving which solution until after the experiment was over.)
After a given time I would take blood samples (to check for antibodies) and then challenge (inoculate) each animal with a dose of the live germ cultures. In order for the test to be valid, 100% of the control group would have to contract the disease.
Know what I found? The animals that got the vaccine DID NOT get the disease and the control animals DID.
Or to be even more scientific, there was always a dose of vaccine at which only 50% of the test animals got sick. Above that concentration they were almost all protected; below that they almost all got sick.
Vaccination works.
It is all about trust
As someone who is doing vaccine research, I agree with you 100% that if it past phase 3 clinical trial, the vaccine do work. However, that is not what it is about. It is about can we trust the government. Can we trust those who are in power? Can people trust that there is nothing else been done to that vaccine. Would people trust the establishment to give them the same vaccine that the people in the clinical trial get. If they don't they have the right to refuse it. I want that right too.
seriously now..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWfCnjnShnM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2...
Someone should check the immune systems of those that got sick.
I still say think twice. I'll take the Vit C IV instead. :-)
You missed the point entirely...
It's not about whether the vaccinations work or not. It's an issue of not wanting the government to interfere with personal medical decisions. Why should I have to get a shot of because some bureaucrat thousands of miles away says that I have to? That decision should be left up to me. It doesn't matter if you or the government don't understand or agree with my reasons, the only person who gets to decide what goes in my body is ME.
If It Was Bad For You, They Wouldn't Make You Take It
I agree. Good post.
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
Sheep????
For someone who has this quote "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels, you say this, "If It Was Bad For You, They Wouldn't Make You Take It.".
If you want to take papa GOVs night time medicine go right ahead, just don't be thinking you have the right to make me take it.
If it was good for you
they wouldn't have to make you take it.
Right...
You wouldn't have to go for your taser gun and nail the living ***** out of them, to keep them away while they go vaccinate the other zombies.
Don't get me wrong, they can do it to anyone who loves vaccinations and will do it.
For everybody else, they better not bring that crap anywhere near them. After all people can choose to get natural cures to anything, even cancer. We have guns and the right to do so anytime.....anywhere
missing the point
If the government declares martial law on the whole country and then attempts to force vaccinations on everyone you can kiss your second amendment goodbye. Gun Confiscation is part of the whole game, quit whining about gun laws and 1st and 4th amendments, they're all gone when they declare martial law, remember Katrina? This is all part of the plan and I suggest everyone wake up and think about what that will do to the freedom movement, done, game over, massive death, no guns, no revolution.
failure to vaccinate in soviet union resulted in diphtheria....
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/98245
Cause was antivaccinationist propaganda....
Regnad Kcin Devon Handed You Your Ass On A Platter And Yet...
you blather on......you are just like a lot of people that "used to be here" until recently: unteachable.
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Yeah, and the Ukraine saw through Ted Turner's eugenicists' lies
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Vaccine scare threatens health in Ukraine
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Authorities have canceled a U.N.-backed measles and rubella vaccination campaign funded by U.S. philanthropist Ted Turner, and will have to collect and incinerate nearly 9 million unused doses in coming months.
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Ain't that interesting?
But how can a guy who SUPPOSEDLY wants to save lives state the following?:
Excerpt from the following article:
Ted Turner Wants You Dead To Save The Planet
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Back in 1996, Turner stated in an interview with Audubon Magazine that a 95% population reduction would be ideal. Below is his quote.
A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal."
Turner has also donated $1 billion to an organization known as the United Nations Foundation. The organization created by Turner is dedicated to the goals of population control, condom distribution, promotion of abortion and other methods to promote the stealth eugenics agenda. Turner and others like Bill and Melinda Gates have donated large amounts of money to so called charitable organizations which really serve to promote the eugenics movement. The public thinks they are doing a good thing with their money, when in fact they are contributing their wealth behind a much more evil and sinister agenda.
Amazingly, Turner was also given an award from the UN for his work in sustainable development which is really nothing more than code for population reduction.
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Now how do you all reconcile that?
I know how -
Vaccines are the ultimate soft-kill weapon for the eugenicists/globalists.
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www.vaclib.org
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www.vaclib.org
He would say....
"The Center of Disease Control doesn't say that. You must be making it all up because vaccines are good!"
THE CAT'S OUT OF THE BAG WITH THEIR SCAM !!!
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Does anyone have any comments about the ELEPHANT-IN-THE-ROOM of Ted Turner, the guy who wants 95% of the world's population dead, is the same guy who financed the vaccine-campaign in the Ukraine?
Is it any wonder the people there are NOT accepting these vaccines?
What does the freakin' media expect?
Why doesn't that news article mention Ted Turner's quotes from the past?
How stupid does the media think we are?
I'm just in shock there are people STILL trying to justify this scam EVEN though the cat's out of the bag.
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www.vaclib.org
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www.vaclib.org
OK, fine
BUT...
Were your vaccine injections the pure vaccine, or was it preserved in the toxic soup that the shots are in?
And did you bother to measure the side effects on thyroid productions, T-cell production, and liver production in these cases?
This so-called toxic soup---where do you get your info about it?
Formaldehyde is used to kill the virus or bacteria in the case of killed vaccines or bacterins. Only trace amounts remain, far too little to cause anything to happen
Thiomersal was once used as a preservative, but because of the massive outcry drummed up by the antivaccinationist propaganda, it has been long since removed from vaccines given to children, although there was Never ANY evidence at all that there was harm. All of the harm was in the imagination of the shrill-voiced propagandists.
The body will respond to vaccines. T-cell production must change in that response, for sure. Other changes will occur. Adverse reactions are several ten per million, and are not due to the so-called toxic soup but due to the immune response itself.
See, vaccines are friendly.... this guy drinks them at breakfast
I guess all those people with kidney, renal failure, blood disorders and autism are just being silly-gooses.
The bottom line is: do you trust the government with your life?
Most sensible people are answering 'no' at this point.
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
Actually
He refused to drink one!
it has not been removed and
mercury is toxic.
u.SofA is about freedom (or was)
The freedom of choice is what we're about. That's fine if you think vaccines work, then vaccinate. I love your facts about animals. Hopefully that directly applies to humans...
Here's a site with a few facts...
http://www.generationrescue.org/vaccines.html
& there are many others. I've been studying vaccines for my 2 children. I chose not to get them the Rotavirus vaccination, nor the flu, nor several others. We're following the same vaccination schedule I had in 1983. Since '83 there are now 20+ new vaccines that we're injecting our kids with.
Currently, the uSA leads the world in Autism with 1/150 children. Our infant mortality rate is 7.8 (per 100,000) ranking us 34th out of 200 countries in the world. We're also #1 in # of vaccinations at 48 by age 6.
So if you want to vaccinate - go ahead - but I choose freedom of choice & will not bow to every govt demand / request but will allow Common Sense & Facts to guide my decisions.
Personal Responsibility = Freedom
Shawn
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www.angelviewdev.com
Warning: This quackery puts children at risk for diseases
like diphtheria.
Dont listen to the fearmongering quacks.
Diptheria
is a bacterial infection that can currently be easily and effectively treated with erythromycin.
tell that to the 4500 who died in Russia
Erythromycin is dirt-cheap and common in developing countries. 4500 died anyway.
Prevention is better than cure.
Sometimes antibiotics dont work.
Are you sure
the Russians had access to erythromycin? Russia isn't America.
He just....
Pulls it right from the Center for Disease Control official site. Now I just ignore this guy completely since that's not proof.
That is CDC propaganda written by the CDC. Bad form, very bad.
OK, we'll ignore you
And my kid will remain vaccine-free and healthy.
My Questions to the OP:
Should I have to do something that you want to do?
Should you have to do the things I want to do?
If someone comes up with a cure for cancer, should the government have the authority to force it upon those who do not want it? And more importantly, those that have not contracted it?
Because in my opinion, this is what is being proposed. A "treatment' (possibly) for the flu. Should I be forced to take it even though I don't have the flu?
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." ~ Margaret Mead
An inconvenient flu vaccine truth
There is no single virus that causes the flu; there is no one flu vaccine that protects against all of them.
And the vaccine manufacturers routinely get their predictions wrong thus giving you a useless flu shot.
half of the things
we get vac for are not even around anymore except for in a lab thats the only place youll find them
I have two words
for you and the pharmaceutical industry:
Karmic debt
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You have been given many instances of vaccination failure in this post and the other one by regnad, yet you both (or are you the same person?) continue on with this agenda...
The pharmaceutical industry is NOT trusted, and for good reason--many instances for that lack of trust have been posted in this and the other thread by regnad, as well...
Of course, it really does boil down to "Having the right to REFUSE vaccination for myself and/or my children". I say I do have that right...
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