Can anyone show me a copy of George Bush's birth certificate?
Not trying to be a dick here but I was just wondering how difficult it is to dig out a copy (a real copy) of a president's birth certificate.
I've never recalled a birth being called into question before so there is no real precedent.
Can anyone with the proper tools post Bill Clinton's BC? Or Ron Reagan's? How about F.D. Roosevelt?
I fully believe that Barry is a foreign national. There is no way he could have attended school in Indonesia (to my knowledge) as an American during the Viet Nam war. There were travel restrictions, weren't there?
That being the case, if we can get a copy of Gerald Ford's birth certificate but can't get a copy of Barry's - I think that would speak volumes by itself.
Face it, with the power and the money the current administration have to throw at this problem, it could have been properly forged prior to the campaign. These are not the sort of folks that are that short-sighted. So why the big BC debate? Why is it being allowed? How easy would it have been to forge a BC and have it placed in the Hawaiian birth register? I don't get it...
So we'll never know....just like the JFK thing (and a million other 'things') but I think it would serve the same purpose to show that, indeed, other birth certificates are findable - yet Barry's is not.
That would put the 'WHY" in people's heads.
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Here is a link to the official public records of Austin Texas and you can take it from there.
http://deed.co.travis.tx.us/
One other thing - you have to go to the local Bur. of Vital Statistics for that info.
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I don't think anyone ever
I don't think anyone ever doubted that that redneck was from TX.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A
How can you find a birth certificate
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As far as I'm concerned, we
As far as I'm concerned, we havent had a real American in the white house since Harding and Coolidge, so who really cares. Even Carter and Clinton look pretty good compared to most of these bums.
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oops, sorry for bumping
let this thread die and have a proper burial.
Bush's grandmother
Bush's grandmother never claimed she was present at his birth in Kenya.
Does it matter any more ?
Why are we having this discussion , the law has already been broken .
Silence is ; implied law, thank your Court.
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yes ???
Maybe someone should be
Maybe someone should be digging for Obama's supposed daddy's birth certificate and naturalization papers. It would be interesting to find his mamma's passport and find out if she possibly arrived in Hawaii AFTER the date on the COLB.
BTW. To get a copy of a birth certificate, contact the state in which said person was born, usually Dept. of Vital Statistics or some such, fork over the required $$ and they will send out a copy of said birth certificate. They will do the same with marriage records and divorce decrees. That might be another thing to look at. A certain couple's marriage license.
Fuss about nothing.. let it go.
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The document is a "certification of birth". also known as a short-form birth certificate.
The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns.
The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department.
Some have said that only the long form with the name of the hospital and doctor should be acceptable. Does that mean that anyone not born in a hospital (Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, John Kennedy) is not a legitimate president?
WHY would anyone think the "long form" drawn up by a clerk in the hospital is more proof of birth than the "short form" created by the state.
After all it is the STATE and not the HOSPITAL that is responsible or keeping the birth and death records.
Have any of you applied for a passport or drivers license? Have you been asked to produce the long form?
To get a New Jersey drivers license or state ID you must produce proof that you are who you say you are. The first item of proof is a birth certificate.
According to the state:
Civil birth certificate* or certified copy from one of the 50 states, District of Columbia or a US territory. Photocopies or certificates from hospitals or religious entities are not accepted.
My birth certificate is actually called "BIRTH REGISTRATION CERTIFICATE"
It shows only:
Name of child
Sex
Place of birth (City/town)
Date of birth
Name of Father
Maiden Name of Mother
Date of birth
NO hospital, NO doctor, NO footprint.
It has a raised seal, the date it was filed and the stamp of the registrar.
This is less than the information provided on the birth certificate that Pres. Obama has provided (and has been certified by the State of Hawaii). His shows time of birth, race of parents, and has a registration number.
I have used this birth certificate to enroll in grammar school, get a social security card, a driver license, register to vote, and obtain a US Passport.
Why is Pres Obama being held to a different standard?
The same question was was
The same question was was brought up about McCain. He was born in Panama to American parents. McCain had no problem providing all the necessary documentation and was fully cooperative in clearing up any doubt about his citizenship.
However, in Obama's case he has spent tens of thousands of dollars, some are saying as much as a million dollars on attorney's fees to avoid providing any information other then a Certificate of Live Birth, which is not a Birth Certificate.
By his actions he has made himself look less then honest when it comes to the question of where he was born.
Funny, you're a 'member' for 40 minutes...
...and this is the thread you resurrect?
Well, since you say to let it go, I guess we'll have to... since you're in charge now and all....
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I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
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For all the information on the birth certificate and for being a member on this site for 33 minutes. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm!
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That's Hilarious!!!
Member for 10minutes...Don't go there now. Israel wants you to behave.
LOL! he get probably $10 per hour
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BECAUSE HE IS A LIAR AND A
BECAUSE HE IS A LIAR AND A FRAUD.. he wasn't born here. the other presidents you mention were.. you are kidding... sticking up for this marxist new world order puppet .. are you not?
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You Make a Good Point.
"This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave."
"This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave."
For that matter, can anyone
For that matter, can anyone show us a copy of George Washington's birth certificate.
Like it or not going after Obama because of this issue is going to get us any where, in fact if it is proven that he is not American by birth it is more likely to be used to establish legal rights for others who where not Americans at birth such as Arnold...
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Barack Obama Birth Certificate
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-bir...
At the risk of upsetting you with a rant and tirade, here's Obama's birth certificate from the L.A. Times (click on the picture).
If you want Bush's birth certificate, put up the money, or do your own search.
Whether Obama's birth certicate is accepted or not, I suspect he's getting a good laugh out of the whole thing.
That's the certificate of live birth, no the BC.
Thanks for playing, though...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
According to the story below
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/...
the state of Hawaii considers it a valid birth certificate. It's their call and they called it.
The burden of proof is not on Obama to provide a birth certificate to show he was born in the USA. He provided a document accepted by Hawaii. It's up to the conspiracy people to give proof not speculation. In the end it really doesn't matter what they think or want.
Good
Good way to make the point that the birthers are kind of cooky (now tell me about building #7 please...!)
What in the hell are you talking about?
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
While I appreciate all your rants and tirades....
...the thrust of the topic has still not been picked up on.
Can anyone post another president's birth certificate? Are they readily available? If we can get every presidential birth certificate - except Obama's - then I think that would be a slam-dunk showing that he is not what he says he is.
Why is this so hard for you all to understand?
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
Bush Birth Certificate
http://www.vitalrec.com/ct.html#State
Order here from state for $15. It says you can get a copy from New Haven, his birthplace for $5.
I would like to add that many people, including myself, don't...
....consider Bush as ever having been President since he never won an election. Not because he wasn't an American citizen. So do you believe Obama is the supreme dictator? That he does not have to prove himself worthy? So do you think anyone should be allowed to be President of the United States? Do you think rules only apply to poor people? Or only poor white people? Either one of those attitudes seems to be prevalent right now. I would just like to know that my "leader" is actually qualified, whatever the qualifications are. So far, Obama has refused to do so. So why let him play? It is just another form of cheating, just like Bush.
Gee, I don't remember any of Bush's relatives witnessing....
.......his birth in another country, or even claiming it happened. Bush did not spend a million dollars getting court order preventing anyone seeing any of his information. Do a Freedom of Information Act for a copy, my guess is you would get it in the mail.
Can anyone say the same for Obama? No? Maybe that is the reason people don't believe him.
Public Record
There all a matter of public record..or suppose to be....Not being given a true copy is against the FOIA....Has anyone in Hawaii tried using that law to force the issue?
As for Bush...his records are public record. Long ago...when he was fighting Gore in the courts...I ran across a site where someone for Gore put all the records of Bush they came across...included was the long form birth certificate....school records...including collage..and clubs he was in....businesses owned/and failed. Sorry...I cant seem to find the site anymore...I believe it was taken down
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