Retake Congress? Restore The Republic? Realize the Truth & Go Forward!
Folks, I've given this lots of thought and devoted the last 40 years to learning, enlightening myself about this country in which I was born and trying to make sense of it all and then resolve what is the best path to take. I am finished with the Daily Paul now. Nothing personal, not even remotely. It's meant to be in my past now. I do want to share a conclusion.
I was always skeptical about this country's government's ideology from birth, I think. I certainly got through the school/brainwashing with my ability to ask-why intact. I was finally given the blessing of being involved the Ron Paul campaign for President, and subsequently Bob Conley for US Senate here in SC.The endeavor was exhausting but I learned much. After the New Year, I was approached by local GOP/Ron Paul supporters to help "take over the local GOP offices." After one conference call I realized "this is a waste of time!" It was a cathartic moment! I FINALLY GOT IT! Ron Paul was a vessel for ME! I realize this experience all means something unique for each of you. I realized the ideology is what matters. The knowledge and putting it into action. It really took another 6 months to morph into an actual perspective that is viable.
As much as I know this thread will fall on unwilling minds to accept I still feel a need to offer it. My friends, this GAME is RIGGED. It's game-set-match with the USA. The WHOLE show, as it is NOW, is not WORTH "taking back!" What's more WE CAN'T! This country is bought, sold, paid for, owned and completely locked shut. There is NO way to regain, reclaim, restore, retake, or even reflect on (since most of us are all under 100 years old) what this nation was intended to be. It doesn't even belong TO us, now! You can call & email all of your crooked elected (by rigged elections) "representatives", march, carry signs, chant, shake your fist, rant and rave, and stand in the rain holding flowers and candles till St. Swithen's Day, and you know what will change? NOTHING! Sacrifice your very life, and to no avail in terms of changing "this country." The POWER-FUL have sealed this stolen center of the North American continent shut! Trying to take it back is even adverse and gathers negative energy anyway. You can disagree and keep hanging on to that illusion that "Our valiant efforts will triumph and we should stand fast as our Founders did" if you like. Be my guest! When you're finally at your end, you'll hopefully think it was worth it. But, the Owners that OWN IT NOW will STILL OWN IT THEN! If you disagree, take a moment to simply look at what we ALL know already. The major problems this country faces are ALL easily-solved. The solutions are all here. We've understood the solutions for as long as we've been active here! Ron Paul beats the solutions into the ground on the Congress floor and TV interviews and through the C4L, and the solutions are not something that only functional mathmeticians can see. Most of the solutions are IN the Constitution (clearly) and others, like health care, for example, are revealed by looking at the OWNERS' MANIPULATIONS OF THE GIVEN SYSTEM. But, there is the key! The problems were created so they are not intended TO BE solved. If they were, they would be by now! Take Any issue you like: health care reform, foreign policy of intervention, economic catastrophe, etc. These are all SO SIMPLY CORRECTED! They KNOW IT! If they "fixed it" then THEY would no longer RUN IT! Do you think they will suddenly hand it over because we (the power-LESS) demand it? NO WAY! You know when that has happened in the history of this country before? NEVER! And then, take a look at what continues to happen DAILY! Sanford "missing for 5 days?" Impossible. Palin resigns. These celebrity pundits who are hired by the parties to perpetuate the illusion that they differ and offer a choice or alternative! Keeping them all dumb that listen. These endless back-breaking bills passing into laws that are thousands of pages long. God ONLY knows what this place will look like in a few years! I shudder to imagine~~ This place is 'Skuh-rude', people! It is a well-planned, remote-controlled trainwreck that is built to continue to come off the tracks! The saddest part of it is their success at stealing the soul and the ability to think logically away from the individual.
So, what you COULD DO is....move forward with something positive FOR YOU, and reach others on an individual basis! Whatver it is, PLEASE remove the energy AWAY from this vacuous charade of inhumanity that is now the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Create a new way, or new existence for yourself. Do what you know is right. Forge a new and better way somewhere that is open to it. Somewhere that allows for it. There are few places, I know that! But, they ARE there! Look hard, they will reveal themsleves and then take the grand revelation you have learned and put it to work! It's easy, and positive and will only grow! It may be just your street or neighborhood. Or, if you're like me, you're looking at other lands that are in this beautiful world that would be ideal for you (or me, as the case may be). I urge you all to just LEAVE THIS MESS ALONE! It's like a soldier fighting in a pointless war (and they are ALL, and have ALL, been pointless) finally realizing "I have no grievance against these people individually, nor do I even know them. Why am I trying to destroy them? I just want to go home! So, I'm going home!" And you can now TRY to MAKE THAT POSSIBLE FOR ANYONE TO BE ABLE TO DO! Make freedom thrive. Nurture it. Freedom does not exist in this country. It hasn't for many, many generations. It's no more plausible to force it down the throats of people HERE than it is for this country's military and leaders falsely claiming to try to do elsewhere at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives. In fact, Freedom only exists in a person's spirit and soul! It's like Faith. It is a blessing that is found in the form of each individual's special, sacred personal version of it! Find that! Share it! Give it to someone else! But, please, leave this tragedy and make it a memory! I am and will.
Thanks to you all and good luck!
This is a spiritual battle.
I've come to that conclusion a long time ago. In many respects I agree with most of what opengee has to say. I think the following quote came from Harry Brown's book, "How I Found Freedom In An Unfree World".
Note: Here is a link to a free PDF download of Harry Brown's book: http://tinyurl.com/lo4c9r
"When I was young, I wanted to change the world. I found it was too difficult, so I tried to change my country. When I realized I could not change that either, I began to focus on my town. I could not change even that and being older, I tried to change my family. Now being old, I realize the only thing I can change is myself. Suddenly I realize that if long ago if I had changed myself, I could have made an impact on my family. My family and I could have made an impact on our town. Their impact could have changed the country and I indeed could have changed the world."
Fighting the Beast only gives it more power. It feeds on F.E.A.R. (False Evidence Appearing Real.) We all just have to start refusing to cooperate with anything the state wants us to do… Even if it means death. There are fates far worse than death.
My grandfather told me something once that I have never forgotten. He said, "I would rather see a sermon than to hear one." Live your life as an example to others to follow.
This is kind of what Mahatma Ghandi meant when he said:
Solution to tyranny: “Be the change you want to see in the world.” Mahatma Gandhi
Personally, I'm not going anywhere. Too many good folks here at the DP. My kind of people.
“Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality”
Well said!
And, thank you! I think I will as well!
Why the grand exit?
Accepting that you're expressing your true opinions, why not just go? Are you massaging your ego?
You say you have no power to discourage, but it appears you're making the attempt.
Unlike others I have no power to predict the future. I was a young adult when JFK died. In my lifetime many things have happened which surprised almost everyone.
In 1980 only nutcakes were predicting the end of the Soviet Union, at least that's what the establishment said. People who said such things were laughed at. Nothing was more certain than the viability of the Soviets. And yet in a few short years the Soviet Union ceased to exist.
No one in 1980 was predicting same sex marriage. Anyone predicting that would have been considered strange indeed.
Even ten years ago who foresaw Obama? A Kenyan would come to America, drop his seed, and that seed would become President of the United States. No way!
The point is none of us know the future, the opportunities ahead. I don't know about "new age", but I do know we live in a world that continues to surprise.
Assuming we don't kill ourselves off, I'm optimistic about the future of the human race. The Flynn Effect tells us IQ scores are increasing for all groups. It appears our species is getting smarter. Hooray for us!
Compare our education
Compare our education standards today vs. 20-30 years ago, it seems much easier now. Whether the 'Flynn Effect' is true or not, the human race is not getting smarter. Possibly when it comes to what the school books teach, but not true knowledge, just skills that allow you to climb the ladder a little higher..
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"One man with courage is a majority." ~ Andrew Jackson
Opengee, I understand where
you are coming from. You are right but you have also done all you can here. Most people have no idea what is coming. As I stated in a previous thread the future is not going to be very promising for many of this country, or the world for that matter.
I tried to explain in a previous thread but was not very eloquent in getting across the message. Sir Felix asked me where the two areas were in the North American continent to seek safety. I told him I could not say that for it is something that each individaul person must look within to find.
I'm guessing that was not good enough so I will take a moment to say what is coming. Yes! There is going to be a pandemic. Yes there is going to be an exchange of fire between nations. Many people across the globe are going to be killed. NO, it will not be the end of the world. It is going to be hard. Once everyone thinks the worst is over the seas are going to rise dramaticaly. Nothing lower than 50 meters above sea level will be spared. That is not the bad part. All areas sitting along rivers and streams will be inundated. The Mississippi and St Lawrence rivers will divide the country in several sections. ALL coast lines will disappear. California will look nothing like it does today.
Mexico and all of Central America will be lost. There will be a few islands but that is about all. Hawaii, Japan, Korea, all gone. No continent will be spared. What the averrage person does not understand is that the earth is cleansing itself. All of the evil is going to perish. This war has already been fought and won. Now it is playing itself out on earth. Personal soul searching and service to mankind is the only answer.
Now if anyone got this far I can honestly say I do not believe in organized religon. I believe nothing anyone says. I look in a persons eyes and just know. Words mean nothing and each should believe as they wish. Love is always the answer. We will all perish in our own time and place. Just know its already decided. You(each of you) must find you own way of service to mankind, wheather it is politics, liberty movement, 9/11 or what ever it may be. It is always your freewill to decide.
The only request I ask is that you take a few minutes each day to pray, meditate or whatever it is you do. See you on the other side!
1976-1982 USMC, You can thank me for my service by voting for Dr. Ron Paul, President 2012
"Folks, I've given this lots
"Folks, I've given this lots of thought and devoted the last 40 years to learning, enlightening myself about this country in which I was born and trying to make sense of it all and then resolve what is the best path to take. I am finished with the Daily Paul now".
You posted this on the 4th. Today is the 6th....and your still here?
Show us that at the very least you are a person of your word?
BYE NOW.
Please tell me how you are
Please tell me how you are going to live free in this unfree world. Harry Browne wrote a book about. One that I intend to read, but have not as yet as they are very pricey on Amazon.
Like the upcoming Real ID? Like our ungodly taxes? And the police state? How do you intend to handle those, and more, tyrannical systems?
Really. I want to know your secret, because I am pretty close to thinking like you do. Still, I want to see what becomes of Ron Paul's HR 1207. I'm not writing to Congress 5 days a week for the fun of it.
Harry Browne is second in line on my hero list.
WAHOR!!
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WAHOR!!
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Interesting choice of words!
The Secret! Look that up! Good job!
As far as how am I going to not suffer the consequences of those things you mentioned? It's better said with "I will be safe from them." I know I will be just fine. I have that power of knowledge that I will be protected and will flourish abundantly.
Don't think LIKE I do! Think for YOURSELF because you believe it!
I am glad to see Dr. Paul pressing to expose the evil of the FED. Will it succeed? I have no idea. Our phone calls will not make it succeed! Our emails will not! Standing outside the buildings yelling in D.C. won't! It's fine to do those things, if you want. I'm not saying they will not take notice of those things. But participating in their game is not for me anymore. They expect it! They definitely have contingency plans for any and all of it!
I would prefer to try to lead my own life in my own positive way.
That's "The Secret" for you.
The thing is, I don't really
The thing is, I don't really want to think like you. I want to believe that the American people still have the revolutionary spirit of Freedom within them. I want to believe that We the People can call a halt to the erosion of our rights, and Congress' blatant thumbing of their noses at the American people. I am concerned and all but worried sick that we are on a runaway train that has me so breathless with all the ever new and unimaginable shenanigans that I read about every new day, that Congress is trying to pull. I'm sick to death that so many of even my own friends and family barely seem to care.
That's why the post "You're not the boss of me," affected me so much. http://www.dailypaul.com/node/98467 But I still want to believe that I can make Congress uphold their oath of office, and abide by our cherished principles of our Constitution.
BTW- Your secret is still too vague. I don't need any more wishy-washy talk. I get enough of that from those in Washington. ;-)
Realdeal
I don't have YOUR answer for you! I'm not trying to be wishy-washy, but I cannot be responsible for your awareness.
You can learn much from the people here. They share their thoughts and ideas and their versions of what they think everything "is" in the world now and historically!
In my opinion, everyone has their own path and their own place and purpose.
From what I have presently concluded, the colonists, or Founders, or whatever label you wanna give'em traded one tyrant for another. The literal Founders (the ones we refer to: Jefferson, Franklin, Adams I & II, etc., etc.) who wrote the words, made the speeches and showed the soldiers which direction to aim their guns; They may have had good intentions for "The People" they claimed to represent. I hope so. I DO know they had their OWN personal wealth and prosperity in mind! The Constitution reads in such a way that it can serve a mass of people fairly, IF it is obeyed. But, for that matter, we individually know we can do most anything right or wrong IF WE CHOOSE the right way! One thing is certain, their Revolution was THEIR OWN! It belonged to THEM! They had exclusive rights to that Revolution. It meant much more to them than it ever can mean to us. This world is evil, inherently. I believe that. It will not always be. But it is and has been. Whenever I see a war in history (the history of Mankind), I only see two piles of dead bodies and then the handful in the middle that was responsible for it merely counting up their winnings and/or losses! Like a human poker match! It doesn't take a lot of effort to realize just how deeply-messed-up this place is. It was messed up from the outset! It was born flawed (kinda like we all are in a way). You cannot say all men are created equal (under the law) and then at the same time have thousands chained up and forced to work against their will. You cannot flee one continent, land on another that is inhabited by indigenous people for thousands of years, almost kill them all, and claim "This land belongs to us white, male, land-owning individuals that were tired of sharing profits to the place we left" and it have a chance to really be genuine! If you think it DOES, then that's fine too. Stay that course and keep insisting others believe it. Aspects of the Constitution are brilliant! They are timeless! But, they do not serve the wealthy and greedy and powerful too well. And, those entities work 24-7, round-the-clock, to keep that status.
If you feel something is an injustice, then by all means make it right for you. For YOU! You'll never make everyone collectively think exactly like you. Nor will I or anyone. I think too often we expect that, subconsciously. But you can fix it for yourself. I would recommend prayer to your God and Scripture and the knowledge that good does overcome evil and positive overcomes negative. It's a natural fact!
I wish I could help you more.
Well, in all the time I have
Well, in all the time I have spent on DP, I have seen little written on how to live as a free person with all that the state has forced upon us...save for maybe going the Waco route...and we all know how that turned out.
Thanks for trying anyway.
It is our destiny ...
Don't let them talk you out of thinking the way you do. It is a bit of faith at this point, but faith I am willing to die for.
WAHOR!!
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WAHOR!!
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Faith you're willing to DIE FOR?
That's interesting. My Faith is everlasting life. There's no death attached to the Faith I am speaking of.
You mixed the two ...
Do I believe in everlasting life ...
Of course ...
But we are all going to die eventually.
Even JC knew this and was willing to die for his faith.
And in fact did, I might add.
You are mixing completely two definitions of the same word.
But the post made me think a bit.
Thank you for that.
WAHOR!!
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WAHOR!!
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Thanks
BTW Have you read Harry Browne's "How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World?" If so, is the solution workable today?
I have not ...
but thanks for adding it to my list.
I will get back to you on that one in a few weeks.
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
Have you checked Amazon for
Have you checked Amazon for this book? Used books and all of them very expensive. If you find a better source, please let me know.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
It all makes sense now:
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If ye love wealth better
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen. - Sam Adams
Sam Adams!
What a true servant! No, what a true tyrant! Who fought for his wealth? I didn't see a "Killed in Action" next to his name! He was an unsuccessful businessman and tax collector before concentrating on politics. He basically talked others INTO fighting FOR him with that rhetoric you just regurgitated!
Well he signed the
Well he signed the Declaration of Independence among other things and in doing so effectively put a bounty on his own head. I'm sorry if you feel that a 55+ year old man should have been tromping around in the New England winter knifing the British. In vocally supporting the Revolution he put his own life liberty and property in jeopardy. If that's your definition of fighting for his own wealth then I suppose he did.
55+
I don't care if he signed the Magna Carta and the Rosetta Stone! 55 is not too old to shed your blood, my friend! It IS, however, about the right age to have cornered the weaknesses of humanity's minds to coerce them into an ideology that you THINK they should agree with!
that's pretty funny!
You've managed to concede a cut-off age to this country's founding liberty, in regard to the able-bodied who could or should carry a weapon and take the lives of strangers (who are fighting for the OTHER "Sam Adams" on the other side)! Thanks for the help!
Not as funny as having to
Not as funny as having to reply to your own post in order to keep this pity party on the front page. I should never have taken the bait and for that I'm sorry.
i meant
Thanks for the help of proving my point all the more. I don't care if the thread sputters out or not.
People need to understand
People need to understand that our founders fought and died to give us a country that was free from tyranny. To hear someone say that our country is not worth taking back really ticks me off. Stop being cowards, is it really in the minds of people that the life and blood of our founding fathers is not worth fighting for and defending? SHAME ON ALL OF YOU THAT THINK THIS WAY!
We are finally starting to make progress, yes the road will be long and hard but quiting is not an option. If we lose we keep fighting until we win BUT WE DO NOT QUIT!
Lead, follow or get out of the way. Choose a path and stay on it. As for myself I will not quit until this country is restored as a constitutional republic and the blood of our founders is not taken in vain. Do not allow the deaths of many that helped free this country amount to nothing.
You can either join us that are fighting or you can get out of our way but stop complaining and discouraging those of us that actually do give a damn about saving this country.
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The "country" is NOT worth it!
Yet another response that insists on reading or commenting on part of what I said.
If you read and comprehend ALL I SAID, you SHOULD come away with the invitation to go right ahead and FIGHT, if you believe in it! The "country" is nothing. It's borrowed land in this mortal coil (or in our case stolen land).
If you read lower down as well, to other comments i respond to, you might get more insight as to my motivation and meaning. I don't have the power to discourage ANYONE!
And, my opinion toward your blood and sacrifices, and all that other pretentious and ill-gotten rhetoric is: that is exactly what keeps those that are in power IN POWER! That Yankee-Doodle, Rally-round-the flag-boys, testosterone-driven bravado is also exactly what makes the earth fill with dead bodies and places lines of stone crosses over them. And, as long as it's "for a good cause" it was worth it? I was very clear in wishing those that want to "fight and conquer and regain" all the luck in the world. I have concluded that you cannot "out-fight" evil, my friends. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT. I prefer peace to fighting.
This transcends conventional ideology to me. I am glad I was given the knowledge. Some of you understand. Some don't.
And, a path can take many turns.
Your rhetoric sounds almost as if you were one of those that USED TO BE in power and they took it from you and you want it back! "Gimme' it back! It's MINE!"
Great you have choosen a
Great you have choosen a path, you quit. take care and good luck.
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and another thing....
are you SO arrogant as to think that YOU or ME or anyone has the ability, not to mention the right, to make a person's death (a death that each person owed and chose by their own choice in a given activity, like a war they decided to be in) be in vain or not in vain centuries later????? You're trying to convince me and others that we have some obligation to millions of individuals' own deaths (which they owed by simply being born) as some perpetual bill we have to continue to pay? These individuals had no idea where we would be NOW and nor would they be expected to! They were serving their life's purpose to THEM! I do NOT expect some future generation to have to "keep my choice, I chose willingly" alive or commemorate it in some way! How totally selfish and arrogant to even imply that! Circumstances and conditions in this life change DAILY! You can memorialize their spirit (if you have some idea what that truthfully was, if you knew one or some personally), but to have some arbitrary count in mind when you use that term is so misleading to me. The Founders had a special place in history. They didn't ask anyone to perpetuate it! They could only HOPE they might, and even then with regard to the situation at that given point in time.