Dump DC! The 50-State Secession Plan
Attribute to The Libertarian Enterprise
There have been rumblings about secession lately. The blue-state liberals talked it up a bit after the last election, and most readers here probably have been following the goings-on in states like Vermont and Alaska.
One thing that has struck me about these is their air of unreality. If the god-king Lincoln managed to get the (rump) nation to prevent 7, and then 11 states from seceding almost 150 years ago, killing 600,000 Americans in the process, then what chance does a single state now have against a much more powerful and entrenched federal government, that runs the largest empire on earth? "The secession question has been settled."
And it is hard to argue against this point. Whenever anyone thinks of, say, Vermont leaving, they just shake their head. Little old Vermont with the U.S. as a neighbor? Yeah, right...
But, what if all 50 states seceded at about the same time? Then, little old Vermont starts to look pretty viable. Its neighbors would be not the U.S., but New Hampshire, Massachusetts, New York and Quebec! Vermont could go on its own, or join with one or several of these in confederation. As to Quebec, if 50 states seceded, could a subsequent Canadian secession not be far behind?
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http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2008/tle485-20080921-03.html
Secession
Can all of us in the other 49 states vote to force California to secede?
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AWESOME
Wanna hear something cool? Speaking at an anti-tax rally, I said all 50 states should secede from DC.
Recently Olympia was home to another tax-protest, as the MSM so smugly calls them, or a TEA party. Whatever the name may be, the local c4l took it upon themselves to spread the message among these grizzled curmudgeons. At the end of the protest, after all the featured speakers, was an opportunity for 2 minute speeches to those who wanted to say something. Well, guess what. I had a few things I wanted to get off my chest.
I was second to last in line. And when I got to the podium I quickly went through a laundry list of grievances against the DHS "right-wing extremists report," and, of course, the Federal Reserve. And even though I was feeling the warm sensation of urinating on myself (thank goodness I was wearing very dark pants), I knew I was coming to the end of my 2 min rant. Maybe it was the sheriff with the clock, who was a speaker, counting down the time. Yet, I wanted to say "welfare/warfare state," which I did to a few gasps in the neoconservative spots of the crowd; and should we have the "government take care of you from cradle to grave," which I did, and I also said I believed in secession. I believe all 50 states should secede from the District of Columbia!
#$#We need to build political strength and political will&*&&
We need to build political strength and political will.
As the song goes ...
"Wouldn't it be loverly!"
But how do we do it? Where do we start? And, most importantly, how do we stop it from being infiltrated by Zionists and their lackeys?
All I Want is a Tank or Three
A fleet of MiGs and an RPG
Some troops who'll die for me,
Oh, wouldn't it be milit'ry?
Lots of taxes to collect,
And for life President-Elect.
A marble monument...
Oh wouldn't it be tyranny?
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How can we do this?
in practical terms?
betty
Take advice from Gandhi
It took Gandhi over twenty years to see victory in his movement in south africa. How did he do it? he formed groups, wrote newsletters, challenged the government and cultural norms. He never gave up, was not intimidated and stayed true to his fundamental principles of personal sacrifice and non-violence. We must do the same. Consider joining up with a secession movement in your state, or start one if you dont have one. Continue to work with groups like YAL and Campaign for Liberty. I look at the situation like a sinking ship. If we can keep this ship afloat and fix the problem it will be C4L that does it, but eventually we may need to head for the lifeboats, that would be state secession.
If you want ideas about starting up a secession group, send us an email.
-WisconsinRepublic.org
Woo woo!
As far as DC is willing to go towards global gov't, the states have to be willing to go in the direction of local gov't. We could fix so many of our issues by tending to our brothers and sisters in the neighborhood, rather than spending endless money on overseas wars and 'stimulus' packages and lobbyist agendas, etc, etc... Americans have to reclaim their power to take care of themselves. By the way, secession or no, we will be a poor country for a long time, so it is a matter of poor and free or poor and DC.
It's kinda tough to reascert strong State government
when most of 'em are standing there with their hands-out to Washington, begging for our own money back.
Damn hard to get enough people to do it at the same time... but we could stop Washington in its tracks by turning off the tax spigot. THAT is something over which we have direct control. In order to work though, it'd have to be very large scale.
no 50 state secession is necessary,
all the states need to do is reassert the 10th amendment...
Time to obey the 9th & 10th Amendments
We need to focus on getting each of our States in order. If our States forced the Fed. Gov't to obey the Bill of Rights our Constitutional Republic would be restored.
Secession is near impossible for the smaller, less self sufficient States. I do not believe that this administration would have the backbone to keep the union together though. Many Obama voters thought they were voting for peace. I don't think they would stand for Obama carpet bombing Vermont or Texas.
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re: I don't think they would stand for Obama carpet bombing
Do not hold your breath, that guys bs taken for gold by the zombies...
Yes....
Downsize DC? Let's just get state's rights back.
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Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make..
Libera me......from this dark dream, to the life-stream! --Leslie Phillips
What's next after End the Fed? Repeal the XVI and XVII Amendments!
But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers
There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer
Secession is not really necessary
All the states need to do is re-affirm their constituional states rights!
Vermont Secession
We had Thomas Naylor, founder of the Second Vermont Republic on our show Sunday night. The following link is the video of his comparing the old Soviet Empire to the current US Empire. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBWJdoHassk
Marek
I like it!
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Isn't this what Edwin Vieira is doing?
Isn't this what Edwin Vieira is doing with "Committees of Safety"? The thing that is missing from the above plan is the "Power of the Purse and Sword" that must be reclaimed in order for it to stick.
no
Committees of Safety is about returning the power of the purse and the sword back to the states under the 10th amendment, nothing to do with secession
for more info visit www.commiteesofsafety.org
Any state would have a legal
Any state would have a legal standing for secession since the country was founded as a Constitutional Republic and the National government has infringed on that constitution and the idea of a republic. No need to list the near endless list of infringements, but few realize the idea that the Senators are elected by popular vote which leaves the states without representation. (They used to be elected by the state congress or appointment by governor). Can you say taxation without representation?! However, none of this matters when they hold a gun to your head. If 50 states were willing to secede, why not just amend the Constitution or sack DC?
WisconsinRepublic.org
We are starting a secession movement in Wisconsin. Check us out at WisconsinRepublic.org. Secession would definitely be easier with everyone in the act!
Hillarious...
yet silly.
Why get 50 to leave when you can just get 3/4 and amend the Constitution to say whatever you want.
At this point, our country would be much better off without
those corporate shills who pretend to represent us! They need to be relieved of their duties, because the vast majority have been ignoring their duties for quite some time!
betty
Great Thoughts
I've joined the texasnationalist.com in the hope of getting my state out of this so called union. I know there are other states just waiting and hoping that some state will get the ball rolling. We just don't fit together anymore.
me too
and I just ordered a secede bumper sticker (magnetic).
CA here...
I'm more of a secede, and then rejoin just to establish the precedent that we can.
I'm not ready to quit on ye olde USA just yet. Pooling resources for defense, and having open borders between states is a good thing in my opinion-- I'm fairly sure that if we broke the USA down into 50 little countries those things would disappear.
Good Job
I'm in Texas also
I love it!
double bump for a priority posting! This would resolve the basic problem !
betty
It's a good idea, but
It's a good idea, but realize we may be fighting foreign troops.
Doubt it.....
The foreign troops are no different than street thugs. There are far more of us than them, just run them out on a rail hail fire and all.
Don't even look at the consequences of the action. Think about how much better off the states will be, I know after my altercation I had over one of these bastards, we'd all be a million times better off.....
In other words screw the foreign troops....Let them sit their water and die in it, if they come into our states after we secede. IF certain sovereign states secede, they won't want to even come to our neighbors then...
true...
then we can be labeled "insurgents" and "terrorists" for defending our country... i think it would be quite tough to get control of East TN here. lots of good ol' boys with hunting rifles, shotguns, and hanguns.
and i cant imagine the guys i know in the armed forces being cool with foreign troops firing on Americans... not saying i dont think our own troops wouldnt fire on us, kind of the Big Brother thing - where they beat up on us but nobody else can
Maybe. Maybe not. I'm
Maybe. Maybe not. I'm willing to bet that many countries will support us because we will be neutering their oppressor(s).
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"Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." -- General John Stark.