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Im a believer
I believe the government set up 9-11 just like Pearl Harbor...And I can hold no fault with Dr.Paul for not wanting to speak on the subject.
I look at it this way...As bad as 9-11 was...the fall out, not only for us in America, but othes around the world, is worse. I also believe when..not if but WHEN..the Fed is made to open its books..you get a few brains to go over the books...I believe a link from them to the twin towers will be there.
It might look like a spider web that needs to be untangled..but it will be there. And those who are trying to expose government..when they get to close..I believe they will be murdered. It might look like a crash...accident..over dose...or that they took their own life..but it will be cold..heartless muder.
That is my belief..dont fault me for having it..its MY RIGHT.
Freedom is another way to God...A corrupt government is a straight way to hell.
I believe in Hope & Change..I Hope the government will Change
Spindale-Rutherford County-North Carolina
Let me start over....
Perhaps the aggressiveness of my last post caused a bit more of an uproar than I now want and may have been counter productive to my point.
I admitted already that it was a rant, not a "desperate" one, but indeed a rant. I have never had so much admiration for a man as much as I have for Dr. Paul and I follow every foot step and do everything in my power to get him elected or his voice out in the mainstream. I call alot of mainstream radio shows and write alot of letters to try to find ways for the mainstream and others to accept him. In other words: to build a bridge for common ground so that we can change this government and popular thought. I get very frustrated when I see RP smeared for his backing from 911 truthers and neo nazis. I believe in freedom and Dr. Paul represents ANY BODY's freedom to have their point of views (just like I have my opinions). Perhaps I am wrong to come out so strong, but I did get frustrated and I am a human with emotions.
I personally dont like people speaking for Dr. Paul. All I do is use what he says and that is it and I dont make assumptions. I dont know who did 911, in reality. However, I am not so quick to blame the US government. I have watched all films and read most blogs that are popular on this subject and I have also read all the "debunkings". I personally believe WHAT 'I' believe is circumstantial evidence that lead ME (ok, I am making peace here, I dont think it would be nice to attack me in THIS post, however, the last one is free game..) to believe that it must be terrorists and not the US government. I am not a troll (as a matter of fact, it would piss me off in this peace building post), I am an educated business owner, veteran, and Buddhist (I know it has no relavence, but I thought I would put it show I am human) with a passion for economics, politics and culture. I am extremely open minded, believe it or not, but I have a right to an opinion and I base my belief of what RP says, based on what I have heard him say PERSONALLY (I have met him twice and breifly brought up this subject the first meeting) and PUBLICLY.
Who knows who blew up the towers, but all I am saying is that I am asking peacefully for people to be just as open minded with the evidence and the counter evidence. On a side note, I am still not convinced about the fact that explosives were used and that doesnt make me an asshole. Trust me, I HATE the government. I really do. I believe they have ruined this country from what it was supposed to be. Do I believe in the NWO? No. but again, that doesnt make me a troll or ignorant because I am an EX believer. I used to be a truther, believe it or not (admittingly for only a year, so not very long). But anyway. Lets just agree to disagree, I guess.
Ron Paul 2012
Ron Paul 2012
Honestly...
...if you wish to believe whatever regarding 9/11, that's fine. You're ignoring insurmountable evidence, with, in my opinion, the most damning being the PNAC quote prior to 9/11 that they would need a disaster the calibre of 9/11 to advance their agenda (an advance it they sure did). I could go on, but regardless of the fact, what's done is done and focusing on the past when we have so much to do in the present for the future is futile.
However, ignoring the existence of the Illuminati when we have historical documents proving their massive influence (read the George Washington papers), the Bilderberg meetings, Council on Foreign Relations, Bohemian Grove...folks that don't believe in the NWO feel that it's impossible for a few thousand people to control the world. The term "money is the root of all evil" wasn't derived from the belief that money itself was evil, and that we should shun material wealth. What the term meant is that if you want to find those who are truly evil, then follow the paper trail. Those few thousand possess the vast majority of the world's wealth, which they've used over the centuries to gain control of governments. When you get a chance, I'd highly recommend reading this:
http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/fagan.html
If you can read through the entire above link (will take roughly an hour), and still not believe in a global new world order conspiracy, then I respectfully bow out. But, if I can bring you on board, then amen to that brotha! :)
You can believe whatever you want. That is your choice.
Glad you are taking a step back with this comment, but you can't be to upset with people when you came into this thread looking for a fight with your collectivist stereotyping and "tin foil hats" remark.
You also seem to be under the impression that people are here to coddle you and hold your hand.
"Smart guy" below doesn't have to spell things out for you.
Do you own research. If you are not happy with Alex Jones or Zeitgeist or "smart guy", look elsewhere.
There are plenty of architects and engineers risking their careers by speaking up about 9/11...and not in favor of the stories we have been led to believe by the government and media.
Check into that. You might be surprised at what you find.
I have, I have, I have...
That is what I am saying!! I am the only one here that has admitted to being fully open to the "other side", no one else has!!! NOT ONE OTHER PERSON!!! I have said from every post that I have and will continue to look into what people say with an open mind. However, nobody here will even admit (the closest is simplesam) to being open minded about it being a false conspiracy! Not one person has said they are open minded to themselves being wrong. I have said and will say that I am open to being wrong. There, I said it clearly this time. I challange some one to say the same, with honesty.
Ron Paul 2012
Ron Paul 2012
Im not expecting people to hold my hand...
When someone attacks, I attack. When someone wants to have a logical argument or discussion, that is what I am looking for. I already admitted that I came in strong and I accepted what I got in response. I am not looking for friends, my friend. I told you, I was frustrated with what I experienced and I wanted to make a point and I got what I expected. But then I wanted to transition to more of a debate and all I keep getting (besides from a few posters) is roughly "your a shill, your wrong, if you believe what you believe, you are ignorant, its a proven fact..." Jesus, thats frustrating. Name one school or class in critical reasoning (for people who dont know what that means, its the educated word for a class on logic and debate/argument) would know how fallacious this type of response is and I cant win with these responses. But its a lot better than "your a troll and a shill or idiot"! Trust me, no one here needs to hold my hand, no one needs to be my friend, but I am looking for a real true unbiased debate. It seems a lot harder to come by than I originally thought.
Ron Paul 2012
Ron Paul 2012
I don't like the namecalling either....or the stereotyping.
Honestly, though, if you want something constructive, perhaps looking for debate is not your best bet.
Perhaps we all might benefit from discussion as opposed to debate.
Debate pits people against each other. It has its place and can be healthy to a point. But this is not about "sides", as is the case with debate.
It's time we put our heads together, instead of butting heads.
We would surely be further along than we are now.
Try basic science. Very basic science.
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Basic science huh?
Science teaches to always question the "lense" or the angle or the evidence itself. What is your science education level? I am no scientist, but I can say that if it was presented as such, lets say with a picture, but perhaps the picture its self created an illusion of something. There was no thermite. If there was thermite, then yes, its obvious that something was suspiciuos and that would be basic science. But what if the pictures were misleading? Well thermite has basically beeen proven to have not been there (well at least some smart people who are good at arguing have compelled me to believe that thermite was not there) (http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm)
Ron Paul 2012
Ron Paul 2012
ummm .....Okay ? stay in denial. Doesn't matter to me .
People are waking up and you can't do anything about it. So have fun here :)
As for my credentials try almost 3 years of architectural college and structural dynamics, then add a lifetime of actual construction.
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His argument....
....Is amateur, and is the classic case of misdirection in that it doesn't prove thermite wasn't in the towers.
Since they took parts of the tower, analyzed it under microscopes and found residue of nano-thermite and NIST finally conceded that explosives were used most likely, and that thermite residue "was" found all of that discussion has gone moot.
His argument at debunking 9-11 takes random photos to prove that "thermite" couldn't have done this, but he makes no references to nano-thermite which actually does do this and which the scientists having found traces of it show it was in the explosives...
So it was settled. PHD level graduates and a few stray government scientists examined fragments of the towers, thermite traces aka nano-thermite were found as a result & explosives were in the debris of those towers
Planted explosives likely brought them all down, the only unsettled issue was who would do it and why cover it up with fake papers later...
You are just confusing as hell .
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You don't get it
The other side's argument has always been that thermite couldn't have caused those strange explosions.
But thermite residue was found on the towers, so it did cause those explosions that's a fact.
http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/000...
Yet it still wasn't normal thermite, and this is also a fact, documented with telescopes & every range of equipment.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2008/Ryan_NIST_and...
It was nano-thermite which actually is different, and can cause the collapse in exactly the way NIST describes on their "report" ...
So the conflict of interest, that finally the rest of the scientists showed conclusively is that NIST is connected to firms which deal regularly with nano-thermite yet they failed to investigate it as they also deal directly in that form of thermite...
Explosives were shown beyond doubt to contain thermite. Their only argument which NIST had, is that this is not important, trying to deflect attention away from it....
....While ignoring the more serious connection between NIST and the very nano-thermite they found in the towers which every citizen should be absolutely disgusted to discover. That's treason.
A government institution namely NIST covered up what amounts to plausible treason, by failing to inform the public & investigate.
That was the real outrage in all of this, which leads to more questions about why they all hid this evidence....
You can start as many times as you like shill
But it is never going to work. Anyone who denies the NWO at this point needs a labotomy because they are certifiably braindead.
Desperate and pathetic...
"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
And you can be a total douche bag all you want, nut!
You better be careful what you said, the NWO could be listening to you and start poisening your water and going into your bank account and take all your money and foreclose your house.... Oh wait, I can guarantee you still live with your mom, dont you? What do you do for a living, Mr. Declarationoffreedom? How much do you give to society? I am pretty certain that you have a lot of time on your hands dont you? Well, you should be on the Alex Jones website, because at least if hes your idol, you wouldnt be such a hypocrate. Why? Because I have met RP personally and he doesnt agree with you, my friend, so your other biggest idol is just a shilll like me.. Oh, but with your logic, he was lying to me, so that the illuminati doesnt assasinate him, right? Hows that lobotomy coming along? Nut case.
Ron Paul 2012
Ron Paul 2012
Do you know who did 9-11?
Do I know who did 9-11 either?
He just doesn't want to focus on it, that's NOT being a shill.
Look at the facts, the true uncensored facts.
We don't have a new investigation of 9-11.
There is a lot of circumstantial evidence about the attacks.
Like the USS Liberty event, 9-11 is not going away.
Until we get video evidence, radio logs, conclusive eyewitness accounts from those who were part of covering up 9-11 or were inside the government while this was going on we have no way to prove who did it.
There is NO proof of who did 9-11, no conclusive proof.
That is not bad or an incorrect thing to say or being a shill.
It's the way it is. We only know that explosives were used, and the official 9-11 commission report is a fraud.
All of that was proven and proven in court.
We have no way of charging who did it because we don't have their badge numbers, if the Mossad was involved we don't know who, we don't know what may have been going on there or how General Chertoff was issuing out the orders or even why Lauder owns all three towers.
Why does a Zionist Mr. Lauder own the lease agreement for all three towers, why indeed? We don't know why.
All it tells us is the whole thing must be opened up wide in a new investigation.
It doesn't tell us anything beyond that. For all those things that happened that day, it could have been K Sheik Mohammed decided to place bombs in there & explode the towers himself. Of course then nobody knows why they would cover all that up after....
But the way many see it, is its not as important as just flat opening up a new investigation after we get Ron Paul candidates into office.
People have every right....
...To be angry about what appears to many observers to be treason
That's all they're saying to you, not that you have to agree.
Would you be upset if you found out that the Israeli Mossad & CIA blew up the twin towers and it was proven beyond reasonable doubt, rather than the Muslims?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hundreds.html
Such a thing is far from proven, but the circumstantial evidence is enormous, and it upsets a lot of Americans greatly which is why they are so "obsessed" with what they're obsessed with....
....The only way conspiracy will be proven is when people who were involved in that 'operation' come forward with video footage or evidence. Period.
Well said...
Yes, I would be very very pissed if I found out that any body in the US government or our "allies" (and it was being covered up) was responsible. As a matter of fact, I believe they would deserve to be hung, plain and simple. Look, I can see why, and I can see every one's point. However, the real reason I got upset was because of the response I got from a radio show that I called in today and he said he liked Dr. Paul and said that he would respect him alot more if his 911 truth followers were not so violent. He said that an RP follower threatened to kill him and that he was a 911 truther. I got frustrated because, seriously, other than being a successful businessman, my life dream is for RP to be my president, plain and simple.
Ron Paul 2012
Ron Paul 2012
sorry
but if you believe a supporter of RP did as that tool suggested your gullible.
No offense meant but if you are a follower of RP then you should know by now that people lie non stop about his supports to try and diminish him.
To even bring it up as you did suggesting you believe it speaks volumes.
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The Abuse of Greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power. - Shakespeare
I call BS on that one too .
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The 911 truth movement is shrinking...
This is a fact, a proven fact that the 911 truth movement is actually SHRINKING!!! You want to know why? Because every "mystery" has been debunked by actual EXPERTS... But NOOO, people who want to believe that the government killed millions of their own people in an over elaborate fashion (kinda like a james bond villian) just to get to an end that didnt even happen,will believe no matter what "proof" comes to them. I swear, I have watched every Alex Jones film, Zeit Geist, etc. etc. with a VERY open mind and even started to believe in alot of it, but then I wanted to hear BOTH sides of the story so I investigated and not to my suprise, the mysteries have been debunked. Just read/watch the damn links provided by the other "non believer", because I guarantee that didnt (at least with an open mind). Ron Pau doesnt believe in this horse crap either, so is Ron Paul a shill or a troll (like I know you will call me?).. All I can tell you is that this new world order/illuminati crap hurts this movement and brings nothing positive. I was just in Las Vegas and I saw this homeless guy with a liquor bottle in his crusty back pack and dreaded hair, holding a sign on a card board cut out with infowars.com written on it (I swear on my life, I am not lying).
I heard a brother mention the 911 insurance fraud issue, well I looked into it, and then "lo and behold" I found a debunking of it and I can guarantee it wasnt a debunking that came from the government or the 911 commission. Look, I do believe in conspiracies, like the conspiracy of how f***ing corrupt the government and Goldman Sachs (and both being linked) is. That is a real conspiracy, not 911 bull****. Every single thing you can throw at me about 911, I can bring to you links to documented evidence, expert knowledge, debates between the main 911 myth debunker (not popular mechanics, I think they are weaker in debate) and a coalition of 911 truth movement leaders and guess what? The 911 truthers GET THEIR ASSES HANDED TO THEM!!! I will post the links if you want them, but I have a feeling that you may feel its not even necessary because you wont listen to them. THe only reason I am stirring the bee hive here is because I am sick of the RP movement getting s*** stained by this. Its irresponsible and it hurts our good doctor. Nobody will agree that its good for him. Now the sick and twisted Wallstreet/Goldman Sachs/JP Morgan and Congress and the current Administration connection? Thats a real conspiracy!!! We need to fight this dragon! Illuminati, NWO, and all this bull, we need to put the tin foil hats down a bit, because its chasing shadows, my good friends. I cant wait to hear all the hate posts I am going to get, but somebody has to say it!
Ron Paul 2012
Ron Paul 2012
Talking about grasping at straws
I have never before seen as many people wise to the truth. Your claims have no back in reality nor facts to back them.
No one has refuted any of the facts researchers have presented. Only made wild claims and half truth in the hopes that the largely ignorant will choose to remain so and no dig to find the other half of those half truths. The part that points our the irrelevance to the picture as a whole.
You can not debunk accepted laws of science. So show me the genius in your links that can prove the conservation of momentum wrong. Ill be waiting on that one.
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The Abuse of Greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power. - Shakespeare
huh?
Im having a hard time understanding your post. It almost sounds like your defending what I am saying? I am not the one yelling "this" or "that".. As a matter of fact, Im not saying much other than to be open minded. I didnt make any real claims. I would say we are on the same side, if it wasnt for the last paragraph you wrote. I am sorry, but please be a bit more clear.
On a side note: I do like your writing style, though. I tend to write these posts in a hurry and I was impressed with your wording, brother. Just please be a bit less vague/broad (I didnt mean that in an insult at all, dont take offense. Im actually asking very kindly.)
Ron Paul 2012
Ron Paul 2012
I appreciate the
Compliment even considering all the errors I had in the post. I Tend to put my posts together also In a very fast pace, by my own standards anyways.
To be perfectly clear, I know for a fact that the official story is a farce, and millions like me know it as well. No offense meant but as it stands the crazy ward shifted some time ago to those who believe the official story and have not yet grasped the fact that have been presented over the years. The evidence is overwhelming and a large portion of it irrefutable.
Those who know the "truth" that it was not planes and fire that brought the towers down I would argue now outnumber those who still choose to live in blissful ignorance.
Something you must understand is that many of us here in this community have been in the know for the better part of 7-8 years.
Some have not been awake nearly as long, but are now eyes wide open and have no intent on being put to sleep again and infact defend or friends and family and any who might read the lies and or misrepresentation of the fact that appear here. We have been dealing with Ignorant people for years seen them come and go, most have presented your so called science and debunking. They have all been proven wrong and debunked in turn and then either disappear if they were genuinly ignorant and felt the fool. Some have been woken after further delving into the truths that are presented to them and stick around to help return the favor of waking others who are sleeping blissfully. Some stay to argue for the sake of arguing, these tend to be children. A other harp on and on with lies and dis info because its their job to try and keep as many away from the truth as possible.
You see you are nothing new here, you have nothing new. You are either someone who still just thinks the snake oil really works. Or your just a a new salesman trying to feed the good people poison.
The thing is this community is largely awake, and in fact constantly has guards on duty to protect is citezens from new snake oil salesmen pettaling the same old product.
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The Abuse of Greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power. - Shakespeare
Respectfully, its frustrating....
Why cant some of you be respectful enough to see that I am now trying to be civil and have an argument? As a matter of fact, there is a publication (I will post, but give me a day) in the economist (of all magazines) that says this movement is indeed shrinking. It is a HUGE falicy to say that the Campaign for Liberty and the 911 truth movement are the same thing and that cannot be denied if you are educated. How can you argue with someone saying this "We have been dealing with Ignorant people for years seen them come and go, most have presented your so called science and debunking. They have all been proven wrong and debunked in turn and then either disappear if they were genuinly ignorant and felt the fool. Some have been woken after further delving into the truths that are presented to them and stick around to help return the favor of waking others who are sleeping blissfully. Some stay to argue for the sake of arguing, these tend to be children. A other harp on and on with lies and dis info because its their job to try and keep as many away from the truth as possible.
You see you are nothing new here, you have nothing new. You are either someone who still just thinks the snake oil really works. Or your just a a new salesman trying to feed the good people poison. """
How am I supposed to answer that? Who am I? Its really frustrating. That is not an argument because I can say the same thing to you. Any body can say "people like you have come here and argued and that they are poisenous and feedming people snake oil and your so called "facts" are a bunch of bull because what you read is wrong and what I read is right and the only way I know is because I said so because I am smarter than you because I said I smarter than you..... GRRRRRRR... Dont you see how that is frustrating? Just because I disagree with you and that i have sources and you have sources, but automatically you are right? Did you find these evidences yourself? Who made you the expert in this? Thats like when muslims say its ok to kill westerners because the Koran told them, but then Christians can say "well the Muslims are false because the Bible said so...." Cummon, your always saying the word ignorant, but can you not see how ignorant counter arument to mine is? I have a degree, I am a successful business owner, but then you can discredit me by saying that "your degree comes from the NWO university and your business is apart of the "system"".. How am I supposed to defend this kind of thing? Give me a break here, can you not see how frustrating this is?
Ron Paul 2012
Ron Paul 2012
I see
Perfectly well how frustrating it would be, I have frustrated many people I am sure.
So let me ask you this.
If you know a flame is burning hot and that it will hurt a great deal to keep your hand in it for more than a few seconds. How frustrating would it be for you to have someone who is so blinded by lies and false evidence to come to you tell you friends you were wrong and argue non stop that you were?
When people argue against Irrefutable evidence and even common sense how do you expect someone to react to them?
You see it's like dealing with hardline republican party members who are warmongers and blindly patriotic and Ignorant because they do not understand they are not being patriotic in their actions and in fact quite the opposite because they have been indoctrinated into the system.
How do you deal with someone who through poor education has bought into so many lies so much that they honestly believe they are doing the right thing? But when you try to honestly help them they either attack you or become offended because you point out where their beliefs are lies.
More than likely you are even offended now because you think I am saying your under educated or poorly educated when I am only pointing out that the vast majority of people in this country are that way by no fault of their own "early on anyways" but by a system that is designed to keep them blind. 90% of Americans I asked myself over the last 7+ years believes america is a democratic nation by design. That is ignorant, ignorant does not mean stupid. It simply means you do not know. So why do you and so many others take offense at not knowing?
So yes again I understand how frustrating it can be for someone who is "unknowing" when someone else seems to claim having all the answers.
But Id say it is this frustration at not knowing that blinds most to the fact that they do not have all the answers but enough of them to know what most debunker's claim are poor research at best and outright lies meant to throw the less resilient off the sent of truth at worst and the latter is true more often than most would care to believe or admit.
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The Abuse of Greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power. - Shakespeare
Game over....
.....All Experts analyzed the samples from the WTC and found explosives residue, unfettered proof that explosives were used.
http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/000...
http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCIEJ/2008/00...
Very likely because the government scientists were forced to concede, this is irrefutable evidence that all three WTC towers were demolished with explosives.....
Further, it is clear to many that the "conspiracy theory" about the Mossad doing it might not be far off.
It was definitely some sort of black bag "job", the only thing which is not known nor is it conclusively understood yet, is who used the explosives to bring them down...
This is pretty desperate rant .You know we're getting close .
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Desperate rant?
How was that a "desperate" rant? What, do you think I am working for the man or the NWO and all the sudden I am realizing that you are getting close to my/our diabolical plan? *MUAH-HA-HA-HA!!!!*
If I were present real, undebatable, credible evidence, with real MOTIVE (like with Goldman Sachs and Fed Reserve), I promise you that I would give my blood sweat and tears to this movement. But it would have to make sense, of course. Desperate is bad choice of words,my friend...Now "rant"..... well... maybe;-)
Ron Paul 2012
Ron Paul 2012
desperate because of your denial of the facts, You are
defending your gullibility . It's very common.
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