Apollo Moon Landing - Big Military Industrial Complex Hoax?

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What do you believe? Was it real or was it memorex.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533160,00.html

Ooops, they recorded over the original tapes. Or did they? Likely excuse.

So now we are told they are having Hollywood doctor the tapes. Is it to improve the images or to have todays image processors cover up the descrepancies? Is it merely the latest effort to hide and distort the truth of goverment manipulation from future generations?

Why don't we go back to the moon? Maybe we can't because maybe we never did? What do you think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moon_Landing_hoax_conspi...

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Did you hear about the

Did you hear about the restaurant on the moon???

Great food, no atmosphere!!!

:-)

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for James Madison.

Hope

Hope you folks can gain some focus.

I'll check back in a few years.

We went to the moon, not once but 6-7 times.

Over 400,00 people were involved in the Apollo program over the years. This is classic disinformation to discredit the real cover-ups.

They faked Apollo 13 too

given the theory Apollo was a hoax that incident has to be interpreted as a planned failure just to make the endeavor seem more hazardous.

lol

To think they managed to convince a bunch of test pilots to set aside their integrity and play along. What a monumental conspiracy!

"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799

Radiation Belts

People can't go through the Van Allen Radiation belts.

RADIATION PLAN FOR THE APOLLO LUNAR MISSION

http://www.braeunig.us/space/69-19.htm

from The Van Allen Belts and Travel to the Moon

http://www.wwheaton.com/waw/mad/mad19.html

Provided the duration is short and the vehicle is constructed of aluminum alloy the answer is yes.

"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799

there are aliens on the

there are aliens on the moon!

Bring it up with Buzz

and make sure you have a steak to place over that black eye

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOo6aHSY8hU

:D

"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
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Buzz punches like a girl.

He's lucky someone didn't knock his dentures down his throat.

Funny how he quit NASA, shunned the spotlight, and started drinking heavily after his supposed greatest achievement.

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Too many physicists

I'm sorry, but the idea that any government agency can keep a secret, especially one like this, is silly and completely without precedent (as far as we know).

But add to that the idea that this is not the NSA or the CIA, but an agency full of scientists... Science attracts non-politicians. Truth-tellers and truth-seekers. They found a way to reveal the O-ring problem, and they would not be complicit in a hoax or waste their lives working on one.

Further, you will never convince me that mere bureaucrats were able to convince these scientists it wasn't a hoax if it was. Keeping secrets at Los Alamos required isolation and had near unanimous support in wartime. I just can't see anything close to a good reason why such a secret would last for decades, here.

IMissLiberty

IMissLiberty

Compartmentalization (intelligence)

In matters concerning intelligence, whether public or private sector, compartmentalization of information means to limit access to information to persons who directly need to know such information in order to perform certain tasks.

The basis for compartmentalization is that if fewer people know the details of a mission or task, the risk or likelihood that such information could be compromised or fall into the hands of the opposition is decreased. Hence, varying levels of clearance within organizations exist. Yet, even if someone has the highest clearance, certain "eyes only" information may still be restricted to certain operators, even of lower rank. In intelligence administration, officials believe it is useful to keep close watch on "sources and methods" information[1] to prevent disclosure of people and their activities, whose lives they may believe to be at risk if such information were publicly disclosed or fall into the hands of the opposition.

In May of 2008, former Military Intelligence Sergeant Adrienne Kinne, who had served for ten years, from 1994 to 2004, and was active in the Iraq war, explained how compartmentalization worked to facilitate the wiretapping she participated in. She stated:

"When this was going on, I had absolutely no idea what was going on in the rest of the military intelligence, the rest of our government. Everything is so compartmentalized that you don’t really know necessarily what the person next to you is doing, let alone in a different room in a different building in a different location. And so, it really wasn’t until the New York Times piece came out about the NSA’s domestic wiretapping that I really began to think about what we were doing and my mission and that we were collecting on Americans. And we were doing so for the flimsiest of reasons."

This is why no one ever speaks up.... no one really "knows" anything.

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IMiss: Would you consider global warming as a similar hoax?

The government is keeping this secret until the cap-and-trade tax goes through.
Water vapor is largest greenhouse gas at 95% of the total warming effect. CO2 is less than 5% of the total.
This is a hoax of the highest order in order the pass the highest tax in the history of the world.

What I do know

The weather has been a popular topic of conversation for a long time.

If someone could do anything about it, they would be regarded as a hero and/or become very rich.

If government grants were not available, the number of people trying to stop global warming by spending money on research and product development would probably dwindle, and the number of people actually changing their own actions would probably increase.

I don't trust the information I get from the press or the government, or, for that matter, from conspiracy theorists.

Caring for the environment is something done mostly by those who can afford to do it, which is an excellent reason not to tax the rich, and to end the Fed, and all the other things that contribute to prosperity.

IMissLiberty

IMissLiberty

Science & Politicians

Science attracts non-politicians. Truth-tellers and truth-seekers. They found a way to reveal the O-ring problem, and they would not be complicit in a hoax or waste their lives working on one.

This is mankind's greatest failing; our lives are governed by the likes of lawyers, politicians, moneymen, and religious kooks. Given the reigns of power scientist and engineers would solve many of our problems because at its core science is a search for undeniable truths. The aforementioned are only interested in fattening their own wallets and base of power.

"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799

If you mean to tell me that.

With todays technology with which we can see clearly coast to coast small objects. how is it that we cannot see the artifacts left by the astronauts on the moon. Not some ping from a reflector left on the moon and heard at an observatory, seen that wasn't impressed. Good full color images of footprints, the rover, whatever was left behind. Maybe the reason we haven't or can't is the same reason we haven't been back to the moon, as in we never went in the first place. Being in orbit circling the earth is worlds different than leaving the protection of the outer atmosphere and encountering the radiation outside that protection. And for those who say the Van Allan belts only apply minimal radiation levels and aren't dangerous in short spurts ? How do you know? Would you volunteer to fly through these with little protection? Would the astronauts ?
Then spend all that time on the moon exposed to radiation levels of unknown proportions..Again with 1960'd technology ie unless it was made of lead 3 ft thick chances are lots of readiation is getting through.It's ludicrous...Jesus even dentists leave the x-ray room when taking x-rays of your teeth...IT'S LUDICROUS...ALL THEATRE TO STEAL 1960'S $BILLIONS (Todays $trillions) AND APPLY IT TO THE SLAVERY THESE BASTARDS ARE TRYING TO EXPEDITE AS I WRITE THIS MESSAGE. WAKE UP!

Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow

U R Dum, Like post-- Mebbe like rock.

[E]ven dentists leave the x-ray room when taking x-rays of your teeth.

That's because they do it ON A DAILY BASIS for their ENTIRE LIVES. Notice, they leave you in the room, and you don't die. Why is that? BECAUSE YOU ARE ONLY EXPOSED TO THE RADIATION SPORADICALLY FOR SHORT PERIODS OF TIME.

If astronauts spent their entire lives zipping around in tin cans through the Van Allen Radiation Belt, then yes they would receive fatal doses and die horrible grisly deaths. Luckily NASA, while prone to fits of stupidity, isn't completely inept.

And for those who say the Van Allan belts only apply minimal radiation levels and aren't dangerous in short spurts ? How do you know? Would you volunteer to fly through these with little protection? Would the astronauts ?

I know because of Math.
I would, flying in space would be fun.
Probably-- considering I would do it I'm sure they had no trouble finding other people to do it.

IT'S LUDICROUS

NO, U.

In all seriousness... your post is garbage.

Incompetence on one level

does not equal conspiracy on all levels.

Ooops, they recorded over the original tapes. Or did they? Likely excuse.

During the late 70's NASA managed to facilitate the USSR's space shuttle program by making public OUR shuttle's blueprints, which were developed at great cost in R&D. Not to mention NASA destroying the build specs for the original Saturn V. Then of course there's Slick Willy's complicity towards allowing Loral missile guidance technology transfer to Red China...

"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799

Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter images

of several Apollo sites. These are early pics as the vehicle isn't in its final orbital profile.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/a...

While I believe the astronauts were pressured into keeping quiet on some of the things they saw the evidence will eventually make all claims of an Apollo hoax unsustainable.

If you're interested in a fraud check into the Soviet claims of Uri Gagarin's first man in space mission. They took no photos of the planet.

"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799

lets take this a step further

Based on that we could also say that all the SPACE SHUTTLE LAUNCHES WERE A HOAX TOO....

Do you see how fucking idiotic that sounds......

where did I put my can of "troll be gone".

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Here's a conspiracy that makes more sense;

People post these idiotic conspiracies in order to place in disrepute the entire Ron Paul following!

"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799

Here's something that makes even more sense.

Some people are either too stupid, or too unwilling to let go of their comfy world view, to entertain another perspective, fall back on the "you're trying to hurt the Ron Paul movement" play. This is been overused, and is basically comical at this point.

You're going to tell me that a Govt. that has purposefully tested chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons on its own troops, STOLEN TRILLIONS of dollars, gone to war based on PROVEN LIES, would not attempt to fool the American public?!?

You should change your name to sirdrinksalot, at least you'd have an excuse for your limited capacity.

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There's a saying which goes

There's a saying which goes "you can't argue with ignorance".

And that's all I have to say to you sir. Goodday.

"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799

There is also a saying

that goes "you REALLY can't argue with willful ignorance"

Don't bother to address the questions I posed. Just make a snide remark and scurry off. You really showed me, by golly.

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Controlled opposition

911 Truth is controlled opposition for those who are NEW to conspiracy theory...

I'm telling you that 911 Truth is designed for you to come to HATE America and everything it stands for. It is the entire GOAL of 911 truth.

Sucks you right into the NWO hating America.

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Do you "wake and bake" ?

Do you wake up in the morning and smoke a big fat joint? Every day?

I am just curious. I enjoy a very occasional smoke, maybe a puff or two , once or twice a week in the evening.

But you strike me as someone who smokes a great deal, right when they wake up.

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another

Yet another outrageous thread on the DailyPaul. Remember: EVERYTHING IS A CONSPIRACY.

Anyone who doesn't think this is some sort of disinformation agent.

I voted for the guy because he wants to destroy the government so I'm glad Ron Paul is not as crazy as a good 50% of his supporters appear to be.

You know what I'd like to see ?

Good legitimate close ups of the lunar rover and everything else the astronauts left on the moon. we can get good pics of other planets, constellations, stars with Hubble correct ? How can anyone alive today say without any hesitation the same people that have stolen $24 TRILLION dollars (the same people that own our govt and NASA) didn't stage a moon landing, pay on the cheap for the film and keep the $BILLIONS neccessary to get to the moon. Sorry for the run on but damn some of you folks have really short memories ? Stanley Kubrick said without reservation NASA approached him then threatened him to make films of the moon landing. WTF do you think that's all about. I give loads more credibility to a world class film maker than to the people that have lied to the American people at every turn...Where is this credibility you seem to be hanging you hat on?

Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow

Refer to the LRO images

Posted earlier. i.e.;

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/369228main_ap14labeled_54...

"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799

Further

And this 40th anniversary moon landing bullshit on every news show, history channel, discovery channel..et al..All seems much more like damage control than a celebration of a historic achievement. Use your heads for something other than neck decoration, or for some, not so much.

Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow