When I woke up this morning I had this idea

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What if I took what evidence I can find about fluoride and chlorine in the water, how dangerous it is, and present it to the city council and county commissioners here locally. Talk to them about the corruption in our government, even bringing up Operation Paperclip, FEMA bringing in foreign troops, Agenda 21, and the North American Union. Maybe bringing these things up one at a time over several months.

It might get attention by our local media.

I don't know if I have the strength or fortitude to do this, but the idea was there.

Could be dangerous too, but is doing nothing worse?

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good idea

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GO FOR IT!

I'm doing the same in my city. It's a small population compared to some, but I fully intend to attend the next Board of Supervisors meeting loaded for bear.

Run for Water Board

In agricultural areas, you might have competion, but in cities and towns, quite often you can be appointed or run unopposed.

It looks good on the bio when you run for city council.

IMissLiberty

IMissLiberty

Clorine is a hard one, I'd skip that subject...

It really does work well for huge water systems like "city" water, there's not a replacement that I know of.

fluoride is uneccary however, research a lot, prepare "speaking points" practice what your going to say a head of time and try to guess what the "retorts" will be, if you come prepared, calm and inteligent sounding you might change a few peoples minds, and thats all we cand do....

right now anyway.

“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato

“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato

Chance favors the bold

"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy

"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."

We had a guy in my area call

We had a guy in my area call up the local am talk radio station and speak up about fluoride. While I commend the guy for his effort, it was a classic case of what not to do. This fellow sounded very nervous and started right in on calling it toxic waste. Unfortunately, the host, who otherwise might have entertained a more measured and calm approach to someone questioning the validity of adding sodium fluoride to our water supply, cut the guy off and made a joke about the "fluoride people". If you want to pursue this topic, you might at least start off with mentioning the use of a certain mystery chemical on concentration camp prisoners in WWII to keep them docile and then tell them what it is. Find some relevant data on cavities in children in communities that do not use sodium fluoride. It's out there. There is also information out there regarding the damage caused by overconsumption of Sodium Fluoride and pictures of teeth permanently damaged by it. Just a few ideas for you in an effort to help you develop a strategy. You can say a lot in three minutes without even hurrying.

Best of luck to you!
Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard

Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard

pick one that they have jurisdiction over (flouride for city)

have your facts straight and organized

present a policy propososal "I recommend that you do not spend the x amount of our tax dollars on flouridatiom in the next budget"

Be brief, don't ramble, be sober and professional in your presentation.

Speak with. council member before hand get one on hour side. offer him/her some friendly questions to ask you. have your response ready.

be respectful. don't be nervous or hostile there is no reason to be either. You are just a citizen doing your job by participating.

please do this and good luck....we do have the power we just need to show up.

Our city Mayor, along with our Governor...

declared July "Oregon National Guard" month. I wrote the mayor a letter stating that it is unconsitutional to send our Guard for foreign deployments along with a pocket constitution. His response-zero, zilch, nada.

I just called them at City Hall

and found out when the meetings are, and what I have to do to speak. I have to be there before 4 pm and fill out a card and they will let me speak for three minutes. So I have eleven days to write my little speech and get my papers together. She tried to pin me down on my topic, but I evaded that, by saying I had not thought it out enough to give her a specific answer.

I know they don't like people that make waves. They have their cushy little jobs and salaries, and are deeply embedded in the system, and don't want to lose their place.

At least I know the dates and the procedure now.

What I'm really trying to do is make allies of them though, and not enemies. To help them understand the seriousness and reality of this. Which may not be as difficult as before, as the elite really showed their hand with that bailout. Most people are very angry at the federal government right now. So they may be more open.

Thank you for all your suggestions and encouragement.

Maybe this paper by Dr. J. William Hirzy would help you...

internet: http://www.nteu280.org
email: Hirzy, John@epa.gov

It is from June 29, 2000. Just to back you up. Good luck!

Your City can't do anything about the federal government.

It is not persuasive to talk about national if international politics at the city venues. It will be treated as unprofessional and dismissed regardless if what you say and how well you say it.

You must relate your topics to potential city action.

You can make a difference if you remain credible. Talk to one of your councilmenbers before hand...you will feel empowered when you realize just how accessible these folks are.

while I disagree that a city

while I disagree that a city cannot do anything about federal government (10th amendment anyone???) I do agree that bringing up LOCAL topics is paramount on LOCAL media outlets..

“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato

“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato

Try this thought as it will help you

much of our concern is how we will "look" when talking to these folks.

We worry about what "people will think of us."

First of all what you are doing is courageous and this is why......

You are telling the truth in a world of half truths and lies.

When you speak the truth from your heart your words are the Lord's words.

It is not up to any one of us to turn this world into a world of truth.

It is not up to you to make our world a moral world.

But please, consider this. Each of us has God within us. When we conquer our fear and STAND UP for what is right.

When we SPEAK AGAINST what is wrong we are exercising our

MORAL AUTHORITY. This is how we change the world.

When we do this we are heroes and others will take courage from our actions and take action themselves.

Go and do it....you get to be a hero.....mine too.

Unify

Well the truth is I feel afraid

not of talking to them. I'm afraid that my country and our way or life is being destroyed right in front of my eyes. Our precious Constitution is being walked on and totally disregarded. That our children's health and values are under attack by a very real enemy. I shudder to think of foreign troops in here, and those executive orders under martial law. If I am going to feel afraid, I want some company!

The Water Authority is

The Water Authority is separate from the council. I would go to them, and they have monthly meetings too. These people are appointed to office from the councils.

I would go to council over concern over consolidating water sheds and giving up zoning control over water to a larger government conrol. He who controls the water controls the property. There was a thread about that a few weeks ago.

It is worth

a try. Nothing will change if we do nothing. Pray about how to go about it and start with one issue as dealing with the indoctrinated can be stressful.
www.fluoridealert.org/health/bone/fluorosis/renal-osteodystr...

"If the people let government decide
what foods they eat and what medicines they take,
their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state
as are the souls of those who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson

Dress very nicely

Don't get emotional. Provide LOTS of documentation and give everyone in the room a copy. Also leave a copy for the public at city hall, put that one in a nice binder so they have no excuse not to leave it out for reading.
Make sure you are on the agenda, don't just show up and do it.
Call your presentation "Suggestions for Green Initiatives". In fact, you could frame 99% of your presentation in "Going Green".

Well, on the onset, don't be surprised if these council members

look like deer staring into head lights. You are correct to use an emotional issue, like water and food.
Get yourself a "vote with your fork" t-shirt.
plenticulture.com - pollinating change
And,
see the movie, Food Inc.
http://www.foodincmovie.com/
Then, with that sound and recent enrichment from the movie (etc) listen to council members and commissioners. Get their questions.
(expose their doubts).
Don't take anything they say personal, and listen.
Point them to info: a website, movie, give them a slim jim or dvd, and ask if you may call them back, as you respect their opinion. Call them back within 24 hours.
Then, some will, some won't, who's next. We are with you in spirt.
Good work. Talk to two people per day minumum.

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

Good luck

I really mean that..I brought up the idea about showing local government how corrupt state and federal government are..OMG..I think the people are still laughing at me.

Freedom is another way to God...A corrupt government is a straight way to hell.

I believe in Hope & Change..I Hope the government will Change
Spindale-Rutherford County-North Carolina

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and action. I think you will have to go about this well organized with facts and not to much info because I don't think people can handle more than a small amount of info at a time. It gets to overwhelming for them. Good luck I hope you do it and keep us informed on how it went. We have to start somewhere and locally seems like a great place.

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Good idea. I would ask for a

Good idea. I would ask for a report on the water testing results, you know, something that has a breakdown of any chemicals found in the water. Then, take the results next meeting with % of flouride and Chlorine and your concern.

They will do a risk benefit assesment

A person could do the same thing with automobiles.
People die from accidents, and get severe permanent injuries. Combustion engines cause large amounts of pollutions, an example is acid rain. Fuel additives like ethanol affect food prices, MTBE leech into the water supply.
The list goes on and on and on.
A person could try to outlaw the internet because of drug abuse or sex trafficking.

In the end the benefit out ways the cost.
You may get cancer at 80 from chlorine but you are not dieing of dehydration at 2.

Give out DVD's. People are

Give out DVD's. People are so indoctrinated by the TEEVEE that I think this is the best way to educate people today. There are a lot of great documentarys on these subjects.

You Judge A Tree By It's Fruit, NOT its Flower

GET A DOC

or a dentist, if you can find an honest one, ask him if it is safe to consume hydrofluoric acid, or how much toothpaste you can swallow.
get them to join the 2,576 professionals that are calling for an end to water fluoridation.. then have him join you @ the city council.

if you cant find a doc w/ a brain & spine, then print flyers with facts and have them distributed as you speak to your local leaders on the evils of poisoning the supply of water that is to sustain our lives.

http://fluoridealert.org

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while You're at it

ask him about amalgam. Mercury. Highly toxic.
Why do You put it in peoples mouth?

Ask him if he knows about the risks to work with it.
Dentists have high suicide rate and neurological disease rate.

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"I think it would be a good idea"

Mahatma Gandhi,
when asked what he thought of Western civilization

I had this very conversation

with our county water manager. Bear in mind, I'm not some radical-looking, rainbow-haired weird person... I'm a gray-haired 52 year old, business owner and grandfather who's lived in the community for 30 years.

The answer I received from the water manager was that their "system" was operating perfectly within federal guidelines... beyond that, it was a pure "dial-tone" moment. He heard nothing I said and looked at me like "you're one of those people, aren't you". Typical government drone.

Maybe your experience will be different- I hope. Give it a try and Good luck!

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Discuss facts.

Hitting newbies with very hard info has a tendency to overwhelm them where they possibly distance themselves from the source. So topic choice is important to start with. People care about money, taxes, and jobs. Hammer home HR1207, its content has had some info on the MSM. Teach about the loss of purchasing power due to the value of the dollar being only worth $.04, printing money, inflation, hard asset backing ...

Then what is the positive affect for the people for returning to honest money. Basically, give your platform as if you were going to run for office, or your local committeeman. That is the objective, take over government positions.

You have Campaign for Liberty as a source that does reflect credibility.

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