Comment: Then you still left with democrats, which is establishment,

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Then you still left with democrats, which is establishment,

hence you don't ever take over. and gop estab is still there, and bush-cheney certainly ain't becoming democrats and they certainly will not accept paul's platform. so you need to find them a place to go and then, you need to find a place to go that is different from those republicans.

you just don't say 'take over gop' and have no plan or governance body and expect for others to take you seriously.

jj