Comment: I believe you are wrong on almost every issue.

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I believe you are wrong on almost every issue.

The original Constitution was written by white men for white men, the land-owning "People" of the states united. It was not written to protect Blacks, or foreigners, or even women, hence, it doesnt protect Indians not taxed, so how could it protect slaves? It only protected free white men from oppression by government. It also, contrary to current belief, applied to the Federal Government AND the States. Some say it is only a limitation on Federal government and the Incorporation era applied it to the states, NOT TRUE.

The Bill of rights was specifically added by a convention of states that wanted to clarify the Constitution:

    THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

The states had adopted the Constitution as the law of the land, not the law of the federal government. From there, the states could add to the Constitution, but only if the additions did not violate protected rights. States for example couldn't infringe on the right of the "People" to bear arms. The states could however infringe on the bearing of arms by persons that were not the "People", or that were not free, or that were not Citizens (with an upper case "C"). The Federal government could infringe on the bearing of arms of persons ONLY that were in Federal territory under their power to have absolute legislative jurisdiction, and to make all needful rules respecting territory and property of the UNITED STATES.

The only one of the Amendments that specifically only applied to Congress was the first Amendment, hence, "Congress shall make no law" as opposed to the 2nd Amendment "shall not be infringed."

The D.C. Organic Act allowed the United States government to be a corporation, and to call itself "the United States"...this allowed The United States to make seemingly unconstitutional rules that only apply to members of the Corporation.

The 13th Amendment legalized "voluntary" servitude, opening the door for membership into the corporation called United States.

The civil rights act of 1866 established and created the first Federal citizens (with a lower case "c" for the first time), statutory "citizens OF The United States". Now there were two types of citizens, Constitutional "Citizens" and statutory "citizens". the latter were only legally recognized in Federal territories because of the lack of authority of Congress to make a law regarding citizenship in the several states.

The 14th Amendment converted the statutory "citizen" to a Constitutional "citizen" (still with a lower case "c") Look at the word "Citizen" throughout the Constitution, and including the 11th Amendment, compared to the word "citizen as used in the 14th Amendment and all subsequent amendments.

Enrollment into the corporate United States had begun. Although originally ONLY to allow the newly freed slaves a type of citizenship and mild representation (but not allowing them to vote or run for office, nor to be protected against direct taxes...see 14th Amendment "representatives shall be apportioned" no mention of taxes:


    Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.

    Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of the 14th amendment.

    Section 1.
    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 1 of the 14th is a limitation on the States with regard to Federal citizens residing "within" the States territorial jurisdiction. Only the States are forbidden from depriving lower case "c" citizens due process, only the States are forbidden from abridging the privileges and immunities of Federal citizens. The Federal government on the other hand is allowed to make ANY RULE it wants for its citizens, because all federal citizens are considered federal personnel.

    Section 2.
    Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age,* and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Federal citizens couldn't even vote until the 15th and 19th Amendment, how could they be true Citizens without the ability to vote?

THIS is what happened! The republic still exists for the handful of People that never became a 14th Amendment citizen, such as the Amish, some other tribes without Federal control, and a handful of sovereigns that went through and corrected the erroneous forms and contracts and abandoned the Federal Social Security number and other civil privileges.

There are about 110 "States" the 50 states of the Union, and the 50 FEDERAL STATES, ie. the STATE OF CALIFORNIA which is the political subdivision of the UNITED STATES, its the Corporate state... then there are a handful of other Federal States, the State of Guam, the State of the District of Columbia, The State of America Samoa, The State of Puerto Rico, etc. As long as you are born in one of the 50 states of the Union, you are NOT "born in the United States" nor "subject to the Jurisdiction" of the United States.

the term United States in the 18th Amendment means U.S. Territories and Federal Zones, such as ports, forts, magazines, military bases, etc.


    Passed by Congress December 18, 1917. Ratified January 16, 1919. Repealed by amendment 21.

    Section 1.
    After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.

    Section 2.
    The Congress and the several States shall have concurrent power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

    Section 3.
    This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.

The use of the phrase "the several states" AND "United States" clearly shows the difference. Furthermore "the jurisdiction thereof" is singular. If referring to the several jurisdictions of the several states it would have been pluralized. Such as, "the jurisdictions therein" or "a jurisdiction thereof".

However, I suggest people learn for themselves and do what's best for you. Dont take my word for it.