for about a year now, well before Jones started selling them, and we're quite happy with the results. I'm not sure what you mean about "placebo" because their multivitamin is pretty potent. I don't know why some have so much disdain for AJ, but I have real simple solution, stop listening to him and don't buy any of the products he sells. He is not forcing anyone to do so. My personal opinion is that his sites serve as a useful hub for collecting information. That is all..
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