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Response Conclusion – Out of My League :

Mr. Hoffer may be correct. I definitely am out of my league here, which once included friendly debates with the likes of Superior Court Judges and the Dean of Constitutional Studies, Loyola Marymount University School of Law. I daresay I am not on the “hopelessly out of” side.

“It's being used as an arbiter of what is and is not a corporation. Manta is not a valid source for the point that's being inferred.”

Again, the MANTA reference is merely a readily accessible source. I did not mean it to be taken as an authority.

“Compilers? Do you think Manta is done one at a time by people?”
The coding certainly was done by a human, including every designation.

“ Manta is a web database of crawled info and aggregated sources. It it quite often deals with a lacking of information and conflicting sources of information. When it runs into conflicting sources of data, it establishes priority of source and moves on. Most of the phrasing involved that I was point out is "stock" meaning it holds the place between variables in the system. It is placeholder text.”

Isn't it curious County and City governments are at least not listed as something else? Regularly defaulting “Private Corporation” or "Company" as “placeholder text”.

Maybe that's what they are, but not in the currently understood context of the average individual's language.

Some random MANTA examples :

“Supreme Court Of Missouri in Jefferson City, MO is a private company categorized under Courts. Our records show it was established in 1820 and incorporated in Missouri.”

“County Of Madison in Wampsville, NY is a private company categorized under County Government-Courts. Our records show it was established in and incorporated in New York.”

Finally, a County Government categorization. But still private. This does not include those living there? Who are the principals?

This one is curious
“County Of Madison in Jackson, TN is a private company categorized under Public Junior High School. Our records show it was established in and incorporated in Tennessee.”

Guess this makes your point.

“'Thank You for your considered opinion.' That section actually was a statement regarding my mindset, and wasn't in fact opinion.”

Understood.

“Everything about your awesome vaudeville act and party throwing abilities
While this is all awesome and sounds like great fun, it's not speaking towards the point of starting a corporation and dealing with the paperwork involved. You may have, but I can't tell from the post.”

My mistake using the casual turn of phrase "Quality Elbow Rubbing time". Let me clarify. I sat on the Board of Directors which dealt with the “ reams of paperwork”, establishing the Company. From dealing with “weird legal intricacies” of the State Franchise Tax Board and IRS regs concerning Tax Exempt status, to getting the utility bills paid. Then there was dealing with an initially unresponsive and sometimes hostile city bureaucracy, and Zoning Commission, not to mention the drama and intrigue dealing with our local business community. Lot's of fun and educational at least.

It's amusing you characterise and belittle my enterprise experience as “awesome vaudeville act and party throwing abilities”, apparently because it's only Show Biz.

“If you are an employee of the Federal Government aka known as the UNITED STATES
This is the garbage that loses the argument. You think this sort of gum flabbing works in the real world as opposed to fantasy land. You think there are really two Constitutions. “

The UNITED STATES is classed as a “foreign corporation” with respect to the corporate States, as they are to each other. That's easy enough to research.

“ You think there are really two Constitutions.”

It appears maybe so. Unfortunately I can not recall specifics to cite and respondent notes are on my Windows computer. Perhaps I'll dig them out and find an appropriate location to post. There was an original publication of the document on eBay recently. I was hopelessly outbid.

All the Best. Don't let cognitive dissonance ring your chimes too much.

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