Comment: Eyes that can see.

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Eyes that can see.

"Thinking about that, I suppose that helped the grocer move his product while helping the customer. So when people signed their name it was their good faith and credit."

The Legal Criminals are very busy spending our earnings that they stole in the work they need to do so as to keep stealing and they must close doors, or censor, that has to happen, they must crush all competition, so that the victims can't know better.

You are now reporting things that makes sense to me too, things that I've realized since opening some of the closed doors that were closed by evil people on purpose. This is no accident.

People in business become very inventive as they need to raise the bar, increase quality, and lower cost, while avoiding the resort to deception, while avoiding the resort to threats of violence, and while avoiding the resort to making a living by injuring weaker and innocent targeted victims.

What can be invented when the goal isn't false advertizements?

How can anyone know if that door is shut, both domestically (in our own spiritual oneness), and by foreigners (every other person)?

God (and Jesus) are not foreigners - perhaps - part of our own spiritual oneness?

"I suppose utility companies work on that principle since they use a meter to track use and send a commensurate monthly bill. I wonder how that could work in the housing market instead of buying a home 2 to 3x the money. Maybe the problem is that most want their money now instead of being bankers or creditors themselves?"

The Product 1 example of a competitive money illustration, or "that which could be if Legal Money Monopoly Fraud was not crushing all competition", is meant to show how that can be, certainly, and why not?

People aught to ask these questions, demand answers, and answers would then be supplied, since there was a demand for answers, and the answers supplied may actually be in a form such as Product 1, a no interest loan taken out on the good faith and credit of the actual person taking out the loan.

Why not?

The answer to why not is the Elephant in the room, The Legal Fraud Extortion Racket on the National Level of Criminal Government, but no one can see it, save for us few.

There is a play on words: Save for us few, don't let the savings fly to China and then arm our future tyrants - please.

I can't do much on my own.

I can do more than nothing.

I can do less than sending every measure of my earnings to Legal Criminals, yes or no?

What about Common Sense?

"Do power companies buy surplus solar energy to keep that electricity from being sold to a neighbor outside of the utility monopoly? Maybe part of finding competitive money supplies is also working around the monopolies?"

The Power Struggle is exemplified with accurate answers to those questions. I know someone who is a dear, dear, friend, someone whose father was a dear friend, dead now, the father having been a survivor of The Bataan Death March (talk about trails of tears), and both worked in Electricity, both Electricians. My friend just recently informed me that the laws changed here in California and here again is competition listed:

1.
Against the law for anyone to sell excess electricity through The Grid other than the subsidized non-competitors.

2.
Law allows some competition.

The law went from 1 to 2 and that is highly competitive, or, it is GAME OVER for the Monopoly.

Game over won't happen over night, but the writing in on the wall, the nose of the camel is in the tent now, and although Legal Fraud Taxes are being stolen and then used to "subsidize" the Monopoly Power Companies, in more ways than one, even though, now, now, now, the victims can earn a little bit of earnings, discounted, not full price, but discounted earnings, if a "tax payer" (victim) produces more electricity at home, and sends that power into The Grid, then, or now, the Monopoly Power Company is forced by Law to give up some of the profits, and actually send the "tax payer" (victim) a check, or a number of dollars per kilowatt/hour sold by the "tax payer".

It is a shell game, sure, but the power of "capitalism" or "socialism" or whatever word works for you to know LIBERTY, in real terms, is winning on this front, right here in California. Your State may be less competitive on this front in the power struggle.

"Maybe part of finding competitive money supplies is also working around the monopolies?"

Just because the victims are told to believe that there is only one money, dollars, does not mean that we all have to be so stupid, some of us can know better, and we few can know that electricity is almost an ideal money. I know how that works, you can know it too.

The problem with electricity as money is such that electricity is more like "currency" and less like "money" if by "money" you are speaking in terms of "a storage medium" (of exchange).

1. Money
1a. Currency
1b. Storage Medium

Once people figure out how better to store electric power, in BANKS, the fact that electricity is very good money will be more factual, in fact. You may not yet see this as I do, but I can certainly work at bringing the facts to light in due time.

"Do you know which states are working on competitive money options other than Utah and Missouri? I was wondering if a post for each of those states individually with a link to your 2013 Liberty Day Challenge might be effective."

That type of information is very vague, potentially misleading, and scarce, so "news" about it will be few and far between, and of little use, unless people are going to put down their plows and take up their arms (pens) to march against Legal Crime, and in that case they can know where to go to fight that good fight. If I see another reference I can post it here, and meanwhile I started posting historical examples of important money issues at the top of the page.

"Also wondering if information on currently available alternate forms of money would be good posts to link back to the 2013 Liberty Day Challenge?"

I had read your entire response last night, sleeping on the ideas, and waking up to first offer Example 1, above, and then respond here, and then on to chores: picking up my plow.

"or would adding a comment with your link be considered spamming?"

I don't think that there is a fine line between spam and "The British are Coming!" Paul Revere type messages, you would not, for example, whisper the message once to one person and then expect the targets to figure out a way to avoid being victims in time.

When someone else thinks you are spamming they tend to let you know, yes or no?

Joe