but you tell me why in the world you would negotiate away duly elected delegates and see that as winning when the "winnings" announced for our losses so far are laughable at best ?
I believe someone had it correct in a previous statement that negotiations take place when both sides are playing by the rules not when the other side has cheated robbed and bullied there way to position.
As for how do we fix things and take over the party?.., my personal opinion is do fight but do not negotiate, let the chips fall where they may, take a step back and let these lunatics continue their suicide mission because that's what they are going to do anyway. Continue to grow the movement and reach out to people and when the dust settles we will win...no need to make deals with people who are destroying themselves...they will just take you down with them....
"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."