Comment: I am talking

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I am talking

HW Bush, Cheney, Kristol, Rove, Abrams, Perle, Jeb Bush, Armitage.

These types of people

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."