Comment: You lost me - try again.

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You lost me - try again.

I'm not saying this is a mutually exclusive proposition with anything else, or that you or I have to personally be involved.

I'd like to see it happen.

Zubrin contends, if it doesn't, or something like it doesn't, we are doomed to collapse. I'm leaning towards agreement on that point. We've certainly witnessed the spectacle of Europe "eating itself" over the last 150 years, and it is only accelerating.

America is already well on that path.

In short, Liberty is in peril when people are fat lazy and stupid.

The easiest and most surefire way to preserve liberty is kick people off their butts and make them work or starve.