Comment: At what point do you consider

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At what point do you consider

At what point do you consider something living?

Are you going to save the millions of sperm that die in your testicles every day, or the eggs lost in the frequent periods woman go through?

I'd say an awareness of self and the environment should be the baseline for when something is murder... otherwise it's just killing... like when you jack-off ect.