Comment: Fine Points Worth Measuring broken into subsets:2-Tools/Speer 18

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Fine Points Worth Measuring broken into subsets:2-Tools/Speer 18

“the thing being counterfeited is often opposite the genuine article, and knowing this aught to clue the person knowing this on the actual tool being counterfeited, as to why it was counterfeited, and what the genuine article was actually designed to accomplish.”

Another quote I will save from JTK

“…so the counterfeit versions of Capitalism (Fascism exemplified with Nazi Germany) and the counterfeit version of Socialism (exemplified in Bolshevism Russia) are as opposite the original versions of capitalism and socialism as legal crime is opposite liberty – exactly”

And now would it be correct to say that American Capitalism is being turned into Fascism but is still being called capitalism as if capitalism is a bad thing. So…50 years from now Capitalism will be a bad word like Socialism and the true workings of those tools will be lost in a memory hole as everyone knee jerks to the word Capitalism?
Your words of thanks written down by you that you can copy and paste to that Nystrom fawning post…which was also a diversion…be thankful instead of being at everyone’s throats all you people who are my friends in liberty just because some want to dictate to everyone how to vote. How about let’s say thank you for being able to be dictators and discussion bearers. I’m not talking about you. But I am talking about these words that you expressed. See I didn’t even need to make them up:

“I am grateful for having the opportunity to learn so much more than expected though this Forum, this medium of exchange, and in particular the Spiritual viewpoint, and now, in particular, the Common Law viewpoint, since I now have more keys to unlock more doors that have kept me out of rooms
full of light.”

Very fine words indeed authored by my friend Josf who I would like to return like words to in that appreciation post. Very fine words that might help another friend in liberty formulate gratefulness within their mind.
RE Union: “so as to make the cost of Law unfordable for specific people targeted for exploitation.”
Those are sad words to contemplate. Purposefully denying of rights in a deceitful, under the table type of way, so as to in your words at the beginning of your reply now become more clear to me:

“to be suffering from a dictator who is willfully, knowingly distorting the truth, whereby the actual goal is thoughtful, measured, and finite, whereby the victim is to be squeezed, and bled, and suffering, to a point just short of death, while the dictator who merely parrots a lie”
“which you found, despite the closed loop that hid that key from you, in your own mind, which again, is a great victory.
If I have been a help in that great victory, then it is my pleasure, and a shared victory, so thanks for the opportunity, and the hard work.”

Joe, you may not realize how many victories you have directed me towards and encouraged me in.. The hard work is mutual. It has not come without cost by you…100’s upon 100’s of pages un my behalf whereby some semblance of a Liberty Mindset is being forged in my ever so thick and forgetful skull.

And I still flounder:
"I was born 49 years ago. I only know how Legal Crime is used by individuals today. I know how Legal Crime is used by decision makers in Legal Crime."

I do not understand why if Socialism is tool, scientific study of society, it has any morality involved with it. To me it is amoral. So if I say the word socialism in that sentence it is like saying a hammer. The hammer is the specific tool I am speaking of and in that sentence socialism is the specific tool I was speaking of:

"I was born 49 years ago. I only know how socialism is used by individuals today. I know how socialism is used by decision makers in our government."

I would think the sentence could be rewritten more accurately like this:

"I was born 49 years ago. I only know how socialism is used by Legal Criminals today. I know how socialism is used by Legal Criminals in our government."

Socialism being the tool and the Legal Criminal(s) being the opperator of the tool.
“Our government is God's law, according to you”

Our government is not God’s law according to me. God’s law is to obey the government. According to Chuck Baldwin that government is not a person, that government is the law contained in the Constitution and only as long as it is a agent for good and not for evil does it carry the command for obedience according to Romans 13. Men wrote the constitution, not God. God’s Law is contained in the Old Testament and is summarized in the New Testament as Love God and Love your neighbor as yourself.

This may be a good point for me to say I am continuing to read Speer’s book today. I have completed thru page 18. I find it quite interesting of the breaking up into 10’s 50’s 100’s 1000’s I wonder if that is the way American society worked before the constitution?

“but the intent is to be self-governing,”

Yes, self governing by a law of equity for the Jews as set out and agreed upon in the Old Testament:

• Joshua 24:15 KJV
And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve ; …but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

Serving the LORD basically boils down to Love. Love Him, Love Yourself, Love Others as Yourself. Choosing to love all 3 of those entities makes self-governing possible.
I think Ben Franklin had something to say about that to T Paine :

[Date uncertain.]


I have read your manuscript with some attention. By the argument it contains against a particular Providence, though you allow a general Providence, you strike at the foundations of all religion. For without the belief of a Providence, that takes cognizance of, guards, and guides, and may favor particular persons, there is no motive to worship a Deity, to fear his displeasure, or to pray for his protection. I will not enter into any discussion of your principles, though you seem to desire it. At present I shall only give you my opinion, that, though your reasonings are subtile and may prevail with some readers, you will not succeed so as to change the general sentiments of mankind on that subject, and the consequence of printing this piece will be, a great deal of odium drawn upon yourself, mischief to you, and no benefit to others. He that spits against the wind, spits in his own face.

But, were you to succeed, do you imagine any good would be done by it? You yourself may find it easy to live a virtuous life, without the assistance afforded by religion; you having a clear perception of the advantages of virtue, and the disadvantages of vice, and possessing a strength of resolution sufficient to enable you to resist common temptations. But think how great a portion of mankind consists of weak and ignorant men and women, and of inexperienced, inconsiderate youth of both sexes, who have need of the motives of religion to restrain them from vice, to support their virtue, and retain them in the practice of it till it becomes habitual, which is the great point for its security. And perhaps you are indebted to her originally, that is, to your religious education, for the habits of virtue upon which you now justly value yourself. You might easily display your excellent talents of reasoning upon a less hazardous subject, and thereby obtain a rank with our most distinguished authors. For among us it is not necessary, as among the Hottentots, that a youth, to be raised into the company of men, should prove his manhood by beating his mother.

I would advise you, therefore, not to attempt unchaining the tiger, but to burn this piece before it is seen by any other person; whereby you will save yourself a great deal of mortification by the enemies it may raise against you, and perhaps a good deal of regret and repentance. If men are so wicked with religion, what would they be if without it. I intend this letter itself as a proof of my friendship, and therefore add no professions to it; but subscribe simply yours,

B. Franklin "
Is there a loop?

God Loves Man = Man Fears God

(Proverbs 9:10 KJV The fearof the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.)

= Love of God causes Fear of breaking God's Command (Wisdom) = Love of Self = Love of Neighbor = Self Governance

What is God's Command? = What is Common Law? = What is Love?