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Again, no matter if you put "LIE" or "TRUTH" in big capital letters, it doesn't make it true.

So the part you said was a lie is in response to:

"We have A THIRD OF AMERICANS WILLING TO SUPPORT THIRD PARTIES!"

No... all the 3rd parties combined got less than 2% of the vote. http://ivn.us/2012/11/10/how-did-third-party-candidates-perf... if you need a source. So stop trying to BS people.

As to my voting history... yeah you can claim doubtful all you want. I was a card carrying Libertarian until Ron Paul came along in 2007. But I guess you can try and cast aspersion on my character all you want right?

The whole "standard tactic" thing is pretty humorous. Lets try this, "mental midgets pull the standard tactic of claiming things they don't agree with or don't want other people to believe is a standard tactic of the 'opposition.'" There, did I do that right? Pretty classic Brother Winston maneuver, at the very least.

"FALSE DEFEATIST RATIONAL OBJECTIVE:
If the people demand it, it will happen. All the people need to do is REJECT the FALSE two-party system and DEMAND a third party be included. The tea party happened over night. NOBODY can predict tomorrow (except for people who are deceptively ENGINEERING "tomorrow" by FALSELY "predicting" it to steer consensus."

Sooo... you're trying to say the LP wouldn't need to increase support 3x at least? Johnson walked away with 0.9% of the popular vote. I was being generous with the 3x figure, really needs to increase the LP support levels 5x. You can claim whatever you want. Heck, since we can't predict tomorrow, we're just as likely to all win the lottery right? Nice! Good looking out. Claiming you can't predict tomorrow doesn't pave the way for whatever you want to dream to happen just because tomorrow can't be predicted. 5x the support to get the LP into the debates. That's what you need. Not a 20% increase... not a 50% increase in support, but a 500% increase.

"DOUBTFUL:
"I hate the radio and TV personalities as much as you do,"
TRUTH:
More false-credibility tactic."

Oh god, give us all a break. You weren't even here when we were cheering Hannity getting struck with snowballs.

"WHOLE TRUTH:
"Wins" are not absolute. They are extremely fleeting. And I'm sure the Establishment is doing EVERYTHING IT CAN to (A) win them back or (B) buy off the "winners," like they did Rand "playin' the game" Paul."

I love the permanent optimism you have regarding whatever you want to shove down everyone's throat and the permanent pessimism regarding the obvious wins of anyone else's strategy. It's cute, like a petulant child sort of cute. Nah, I'll take the Liberty wins where I can get them. BTW, add Maine to the list, as Webster is hitting the road and we own that party as well now.

"ILLUSION:
"We can do this folks. This is achievable."
TRUTH:
Strengthening third parties IS JUST AS DOABLE."

Based on what metric? The number of 3rd party voters? The number of Libertarians in the US House or Senate? We're doing far better in terms of actual results working within the Republican party and taking it over than any Libertarian party candidates are.

Please don't misunderstand me, I would love it if they were included. If Johnson had been in the debates with Obama and Romney we would've had a REAL debate and then he might have actually gotten quite a chunk of votes. They really should require 3 candidates at least in all debates, but there's obviously no chance of that happening.

Ron Paul tried the LP route. That's when he saw how the situation worked and went back to the GOP to work within it. Had he stayed in the LP, we NEVER would've had this movement as he wouldn't have been in Congress, wouldn't have been in the primaries in 2007 and 2011, and we wouldn't have the increased support across the country.

Listen man, you've got a losing argument here. I'm all for increasing the number of LP voters, but you're just such a complete ass to everyone on here I feel the need to bust you routinely for your absurd statements. Can't you at least TRY and keep things positive and not spend all day talking smack about other liberty supporters around the country? Not everyone has to do everything the way you want them to. It doesn't make a person the enemy simply because they see a different way to effect change. Take a chill pill.

Eric Hoffer