These guys love the country. They just happen to have some beliefs that need to change. Ron Paul is a conservative. These guys are conservatives. Paul is being very clear that our problem is that we have lost virtue - which is a very conservative idea. Our difference is in whether we believe in an aggressive foreign policy of nonintervention. Otherwise Paul is pretty close with the grass roots conservatives. We need to mend fences, agree to oppose the statist conservatives and the progressives and get on with it. This is how we will win.