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Interesting

"What we don't have in the UK country is a love of liberty, a yearn for it. What we do have is a self fulfilling pessimism than all such dreams are doomed... "

I moved from New Jersey on the shore to the Mojave Desert in California as if from foreboding doom to pure liberty - a long story.

Joe