Comment: Perhaps it would be helpful

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Perhaps it would be helpful

Perhaps it would be helpful if you realized that those you label "the thinkers here" must necessarily hold faith commitments as well, or there would be no thinkers at all. As a small sampling, there are things you yourself offer: logic and reason. A host of unprovable assumptions must hold sway if one is to value logic and reason in this contingent realm of experience.

Everyone has presuppositions - you no less than the religious.