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Great question.

Instead of a defeatist attitude... you actually ask a legitimate question instead.

"...what does it matter if we are really sovereigns when they refuse to acknowledge the fact and push their will through anyway?"

The best way I can answer this is to tell you that even the MAFIA has rules. You can't kill a "made man." You can't just off the don without permission... etc.. The reason for this is that the mafia would cease to be a functioning entity if there was just total anarchy.

"The sovereign defense" IMO is not a defense at all. In the 5 or so years I have been studying law I have found that the best "sovereign defense" is to pull rank. It's about jurisdiction. Not the facts, the evidence, etc... and you have to know the language... how to not contract (have you heard of the restaurant example?) and above all... did he actually follow the LAW?

If these guys harmed anyone during their robbery then I do hope they are caught and put back in prison. Regardless of value/not - it is technically stealing... we as sovereigns must obey some basic important laws otherwise there is anarchy...

1) Do not harm anyone else or infringe on their rights.
2) Do not steal
3) Honor our contracts. (My word is my bond and I stand by it.)

You can clearly see that if all people followed these three laws "government" would become obsolete. So the POINT is... you can either self-govern or someone will be forced to govern you for the good of society. (That doesn't necessarily have to be "government.")