What you describe is "the noble lie" or false argument.
You are 100% correct, and probably those arguments only work if your opponent believes in the Constitution or tradition, and fears change. You make them feel better by taking them back to their roots.
However, I agree with you, and I like to point out that this is why our foreign policy and drug policy is wrong, and the NDAA an abomination against people.
Citizenship has nothing to do with unalienable rights and whether you have them; it may have some impact on whether they're respected and by whom.
I have more in common with libertarians in other countries than I do with statists, here. If it were up to us, we'd have world peace.
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