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Accurate currency

Money products are of a narrow measure, having only the power to purchase, when they are accurate, not when they are false or fraudulent.

It seems to me.

I was speaking about my arrangements of English symbols that I offer to the market of ideas, not money products, but the concept of currency, as in gaining currency, was intended to be conveyed with English words: my products.

The power of ideas could be considered a power to purchase, but not in a strict, accurate, measurable, "monetary" sense (so named).

At one time the use of fire by living beings on Earth was not current, now it is, which means that the idea became current, it spread like wild fire among the humans, so to speak, as if it were very good money, and almost everyone started using it at once - time being relative.

Before the use of fire, no one uses it.

After a time almost everyone uses it, the use of fire as a power (to purchase heat) gains currency.

If fire could be counterfeited, whereby every user using fire had to work longer each day in the cold so as to keep a few parasites, a growing number of parasites, warmer, then that type of fire could be called Federal Reserve System fire, if the idea was to eventually make that fire less than useless for the victims, and that fire was only good for making the parasites warmer.

So...all that above is what I mean by my products. Few people can make heads or tails out of it, as if it were a bundle of sticks, with no way to ignite it, or if it were a match with nothing to light on fire save the match.

Words that mean nothing to many, while so much work is required in the effort to collect enough Federal Reserve Notes needed to keep the house warm.

"It's not so much counter to your efforts as it is parallel. Kind of like a race to see who gets there first with increasing progress from each of us supporting the efforts of the other along the way."

I say things, and then I get a feeling (idea) "as if" what I say is misunderstood, as I misunderstand what you say, leading to a lot of competitive arranging of symbols in English: seemingly failing to communicate, or even making confusion more obvious.

You wrote something along the lines of me not "getting it" as far as "what they do", and I took that to heart, thinking that I do "get it", and I do know exactly what they do, in fact, and the facts are meticulously measurable in fine, precise, accounting.

"To my way of thinking, I'm passing for now on the battle of going to a different currency."

Thanks for the clarification. I understand, or think that I understand, that point A can't move to point B without leaving point A, traveling away from Point A, moving along, and then arriving, later, at point B.

It is not the paper money that is accountable for the crime of fraud and extortion, so the use of that tool can be as good as any other tool used by anyone, for good. I just wonder why anyone would find any reason to use fraudulent money unless they too are frauds. Who decides to pick up a lie, and use it, if they are not liars seeking to gain at the expense of those who don't know that the lie is a lie?

I don't know. I can ask.

Why do you seek to use those paper lies, who are you going to use those paper lies on? Do you want to transfer power to very evil people, or do you prefer to avoid transferring power to very evil people?

I asked.

I still use dollars, I can ask myself.

Joe

What?

Why do you still use dollars?

Well, Joe, you know what they say.

OK, I'll bite, what do they say Joe?

When in Rome...

Really?

Yup.

OK, well Joe, you know.

Yea, I know.

Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.

I think there has to be a date in time at which enough people of various capacities to produce special things best, in their field of specialties, decide to use accurate money on that date, at once, and prepare for the date starting now, so as to have accurate money ready to use on that date, and on that date Caesar's Lies can be completely abandoned, never to be used again by moral people.

Call it Liberty Day, or whatever works, I don't care.

What's in a name?

Many people have, are, and will use non-Caesar, non-fraud, money in their business transactions, including those who have, are, and will resort to simple barter, and they are disconnecting effectively that way, and they are avoiding the transfer of power that is "providing the means by which we suffer", so they are working IN Liberty, in an accurately measurable way - exactly so.

You connect, I connect, anyone connects, by using dollars, and we, individually, and as a sum of all the individuals, feed the monsters who are individuals, and who are monsters added up onto a collectively large monster.

Such as:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Tons of 100 dollar bills shipped to places where a whole lot of evil things are going on, because the money is powerfully fraudulent.

Such as:

http://www.power-independence.com/forum/view_topic.php?id=26...

So...avoiding quotes some, I think we are on the same page with the idea that getting from point A to point B involves a connection to the evil people, including ourselves, until such time as we eventually get closer to point B, which is to disconnect from the evil people, and we stop being so evil ourselves in the process.

If that makes sense.

I don't know.

It makes sense to me.

The concept of inventing productive things to do, exporting the process, essentially giving it away, the process being given away, like a "open source" franchise, is understood by me, and it is a modern economic concept, perhaps similar to the old concept of giving away the razor to sell razor blades.

I scratch your back, you scratch mine, eventually.

That is all contained (that idea) in the following sentence:

Power produced into oversupply reduces the price of power while purchasing power increases because power reduces the cost of production.

In other words: If we cooperate and we do not steal from each other the limits of production are gone, in that exact way, and then things wanted, and things needed are more abundant compared to our predisposition to cut each other's throats.

Or

The Golden Rule - works well.

Do unto others before they have a chance to do unto you works - well for some at the expense of whoever is bent over and ready for vigorous work.

"So, to directly answer your question... Yes, I (we) plan to use FRNs but only as long as we are forced to in order to get rolling."

And then?

"Customer and supplier payments will soon be 'encouraged' to be done via a bitcoin / dwalla / KBGold / paypal type of system to bolster the transition."

Fantastic!

" My largest and first foe to tackle is the paradigm of renting a service for a lifetime that can easily be replaced by the one-time purchase of some other product or service. Getting people off the 'monthly' train will free up the largest chunk of their expenses that can be freed. After that, the snowballs just keep going."

The words that come to my mind here are "the animated contest of freedom" as in:

http://www.nationalcenter.org/SamuelAdams1776.html

"From the day on which an accommodation takes place between England and America, on any other terms than as independent States, I shall date the ruin of this country. a politic minister will study to lull us into security by granting us the full extent of our petitions. The warm sunshine of influence would melt down the virtue which the violence of the storm rendered more firm and unyielding. In a state of tranquillity, wealth, and luxury, our descendants would forget the arts of war and the noble activity and zeal which made their ancestors invincible. Every art of corruption would be employed to loosen the bond of union which renders our resistance formidable. When the spirit of liberty, which now animates our hearts and gives success to our arms, is extinct, our numbers will accelerate our ruin and render us easier victims to tyranny. Ye abandoned minions of an infatuated ministry, if peradventure any should yet remain among us, remember that a Warren and Montgomery are numbered among the dead. Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say, What should be the reward of such sacrifices? Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, and plow, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom--go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!"

Thanks again for the very welcome arrangement of English symbols, it really does help to know, beyond a shadow of doubt, that there are still friends of liberty running amok.

Joe