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Confessions of bad people.

"I think my point is still valid; people are basically bad. Our nature and tendency's are corrupt."

When someone confesses evil, often is the case where the confession is hidden behind a false front.

I think this lie, above, proves the point.

The claim that someone is seeking this or that can be proven over time, as a true claim, I want this, and then that person finds it.

Saying I want this, but in an example where someone has this in front of them, but refuses to get this, for example, is a confession.

Example:

"Until we begin to engage on the foundational issues, we will never make progress in spreading liberty. We can debate facts, we can get emotional, but the most profitable thing we can do is get people to talk about the fundamental differences between us. What do you think?"

When a claim as such above is made, then the claimant can prove the point through direct action.

The claimant claims that men are bad.

I can show otherwise.

I offered to leave me out, and to work an angle whereby someone else shows otherwise, so as to avoid me being the subject of scrutiny.

People who claim that men are bad, it seems to prove out, over time, are those who are bad, so that makes sense, a bad person, with bad thoughts, and bad actions, claims that everyone is bad, proving the point by example.

Example (repeated):

http://www.amazon.com/The-Prince-Machiavelli/dp/0788191594

Taken from the forward of my copy:

"Machiavelli's outlook was darkly pessimistic; the one element of St Augustine's thought which he wholeheartedly endorsed was the idea of original sin. As he puts it starkly in the same chapter 18 of The Prince, men are bad. This means that to deal with them as if they were good, honourable or trustworthy is to court disaster. In the Discourses (I,3) the point is repeated: 'all men are bad and are ever ready to display their malignity'. This must be the initial premise of those who play to found a republic. The business of politics is to try and salvage something positive from this unpromising conglomerate, and the aim of the state is to check those anarchic drives which are a constant threat to the common good. This is where The Prince fits into the spectrum of his wider thought: while a republic may be his preferred form of social organization, the crucial business of founding or restoring a state can only be performed by one exceptional individual."

The might makes right lie takes many forms, as proven over time, in each case, the liar says that lies are necessary, everyone does it, so we had better do it first, to stay one step ahead of all the bad people, like me.

So the claim is to...

Quotes:

"Until we begin to engage on the foundational issues, we will never make progress in spreading liberty. We can debate facts, we can get emotional, but the most profitable thing we can do is get people to talk about the fundamental differences between us. What do you think?"

I think you are thinking in terms of Might making Right, or doing unto others before others have a chance to do unto you, or any other excuse, rationalization, apology, lie, fraud, false flag, cover story, used by any criminal human being who has ever willfully perpetrated a crime while massaging their own ego.

The fundamental principle is provable.

Liars lie.

That does not mean that everyone willfully lies, or that everyone is incapable of confessing when they have lied, so as to set the record strait, and in that way afford any future victims advance warning based upon past behavior.

If the person were truly aiming to find the fundamental differences between us, they could, without too much willful resort to deception.

Joe