Hey I can see how you think I'm wrong from my post, but I must say I completely agree with you. I just didn't really word what I meant very well. I know you cannot make it to heaven by trying to live righteously as we are sinful natured humans. I do feel though, that if you do wrong, even unknowingly you will be punished. I must admit though that I haven't read much of the Bible yet, only a few of the books in it. Well I appreciate your post and explanation 1controversialchick, and like I said I agree with what your saying...just really misrepresented the truth in my first post there.