Comment: Why didn't you ask that in the first place?

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Why didn't you ask that in the first place?

I guess you'd rather put words in my mouth to fit your agenda. You ask about the consequences of *true Christians* (i.e., those not in name only but have actually been born-again) continuing in sin.

First of all, 1 John 3:6 says, "No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him." Likewise, 1 John 3:9 says, "No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God." And, "We know that everyone who has been born of God does not keep on sinning, but he who was born of God protects him, and the evil one does not touch him." 1 John 5:18

So, anyone born of God does not continue in a life of unrepentant sin. With this in mind, your question then becomes one of determining the consequences for the occasional sin, deliberate or otherwise, that a believer commits. There are several good passages in Hebrews (and elsewhere) that address this.

Even Jesus, despite being sinless, experienced the discipline of God: "Although he was a son, he learned obedience through what he suffered. And being made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him," Hebrews 5:8-9

Why should Christians expect anything less? Hebrews 12:5-11 goes into more detail on the discipline of the Lord:

"And have you forgotten the exhortation that addresses you as sons? 'My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord, nor be weary when reproved by him. For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives.' It is for discipline that you have to endure. God is treating you as sons. For what son is there whom his father does not discipline? If you are left without discipline, in which all have participated, then you are illegitimate children and not sons. Besides this, we have had earthly fathers who disciplined us and we respected them. Shall we not much more be subject to the Father of spirits and live? For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them, but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness. For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.'"

Some may even argue from 1 Cor 11:30 that the Lord disciplines His children for sin, even to the point of sickness and physical death.

Your argument that I'm saying Christians can do as they please without consequences is bogus and I already proved that in my previous response. Your implication that Christians can continue in "deliberate, habitual, and unrepented sin after conversion" is refuted REPEATEDLY by the Apostle John, as I showed above.

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father