I share both of the goals you mentioned, and I agree completely that they are not contrary. If I am the low hanging fruit to you, then Reagan style conservatives are the low hanging fruit to me I think. I agree some try to shame. I see it here sometimes too. Bums me out too. Thanks for not trying to change me. I share that same ethic. The fruit that's higher up and harder to pick like progressives and neocons takes a lot more effort, but it's not impossible. The argument "why do you want to use force on me?" can yield results. Just have to get them to see that government is force, like Washington said.