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Here is my "fabrication".

It would be interesting to see if gmail were subpoenaed in a court of law as to the veracity of my accounting here.

i am sure it would be pretty accurate.

I don't lie. And have nothing to hide. But you GIVE ME NO CREDIT for trying to throw out an olive branch.

After that response, you f---ing psychopath...you are not a victim (I take back my excuses for you)...you are victimizer.

NITE!

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“COGNITIVE INFILTRATION”& the Government Disinformation Agents. Do they exist?

A couple of years ago, 9-11 scholar and expert, and 9-11 Truth Movement titan David Ray Griffin published a provocative book called COGNITIVE INFILTRATION. Here is summary on the back of the book:

“Former Chicago and Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, who in 2009 was appointed to direct and important executive branch office, had in 2008 co-authored an article containing a plan for the government to prevent the spread of ant-government ‘conspiracy theories,’ in which he advocated the used of anonymous government agents to engage in ‘cognitive infiltration’ of these groups in order to break them up. In his new book, Griffin focuses on the fact that Sunstein’s primary target is the conspiracy advocated by the 9-11 Truth Movement. Examining Sunstein’s charge that this theory is both ‘harmful’ and ‘demonstrably false,’ Griffin uses both satire and overwhelming evidence to show that this twofold charge applies instead to what Sunstein calls ‘the true conspiracy theory’ about 9-11—namely, the ‘theory that al-Qaeda was responsible for 9-11.’”

My name is Chris, in case we haven’t met. I am a commercial real estate broker in Virginia, I am an ex-neocon-turned liberty activist (I am proud to say that for the first time in my 29 years of presidential voting, in November 2012, I did NOT vote for the establishment Republican candidate, but rather wrote Ron Paul in), I am a Daily Paul member, and, after viewing the compelling documentary produced by Richard Gage and Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth (which, of course, was brought to my attention on this wonderful blog community called the Daily Paul), I have recently joined the 9-11 Truth Movement. In a big way.

But as many of you know from experience, I am also fallible, and quite short-tempered, and have had to profusely apologize to certain individuals for jumping the gun or judging them on here (how un-libertarian of me!). I love blogging here but it can be so impersonal sometimes and words and keyboards are no substitute for honest face to face discourse.

You may or may not have seen the new project that I am hoping the grass roots will rally around, called the 9-11 Crimes Project www.911crimes.org (I formed the website on New Years Day).

So, in light of all this, the last thing I am, as one particular individual on here is rabidly accusing me of, even without any evidence (libel, any one?)…the LAST thing I am is a “government disinformation agent.”

To the contrary, I could be better described as an ANTI-government INFORMATION agent. But, even then, I don’t work for anyone, and my salary is exactly zero.

Many of us on here are like that. We just want to get good information out there…and let the recipient of that information, armed with evidence, decide what the truth is.

Well, it is true that I recently asked an individual if he was a government disinformation agent when, in a series of emails back and forth, his tone became antagonistic about my website and what I was trying to do.

It is NOT true, however, that I changed the text in HIS email to something else. [I could not imagine doing something like that. No way.]

What IS true, however, the statement that he accused me of “altering” in his email, WAS INDEED an sentence that I had sent to an online vendor where I had recently purchased some fitness software…asking for a refund.

Odd.

Anyhow, because this individual continues to publish libelous and false accusations about me…(Is he trying to discredit my efforts in the 9-11 Truth movement…I have no idea)…but, I am publishing here the entire email exchange, so you can decide for yourselves.

I have redacted each indication of his email address, but everything else presented is verbatim. Have also reversed the order so that the emails follow correct chronology.

Have a read…and then make a decision as to just whom of the two, is performing any kind of psy-ops, and, who is not:

To: XXXXX
Date: Thursday, January 10, 2013, 8:41 PM

vinceableworld,

sharkhearted (http://www.dailypaul.com/user/42819) has sent you a message via your contact form (http://www.dailypaul.com/user/45366/contact) at Peace . Gold . Liberty .

If you don't want to receive such e-mails, you can change your settings at http://www.dailypaul.com/user/45366.

Message:

Take heart. The Daily Paul has been swarmed....SWARMED...by disinformation agents.

Pay them no regard. More importantly, what you are proposing to do...and take action...is ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE better than them.

I have a new site that I am trying to help, in my own way take off, the natural and scientific next step of the complete coverup and deception of the 9-11 events.

It is called www.911crimes.org

Please help me on this if you are interested. Your input would be most appreciated.

Sincerely,

Christopher M
Norfolk, VA

On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Vincent ‬ wrote:

Brother.. no offense... but as soon as I saw that subtitle I wanted to be sick to my stomach. The original letter I penned... I just deleted. The fact about that title is... it's disingenuous at best... how would you like to make it true however?

I would consider shifting the focus of that website to this witness project... in some way tailoring it into the suggestions I made here:http://www.dailypaul.com/260491/how-to-use-the-forclosure-crisis-to-recall-your-sheriff-and-save-your-country-one-county-at-a-time

Presuming you wish to be added to the witness program... I'll put you on in Virginia.

~v

Notice: This email is a private communication meant only for the people I have addressed. All rights retained.

From: Christopher M
Subject: Re: The hour for justice has arrived.

To: "Vincent"
Date: Friday, January 11, 2013, 7:02 AM

What subtitle made you sick to your stomach? I am confused.

On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Vincent ‬ wrote:

"The hour of justice has arrived" - That's up to us and I don't see that happening within the hour. Not without us making it happen.

~v

Notice: This email is a private communication meant only for the people I have addressed. All rights retained.

From: Christopher M
Subject: Re: The hour for justice has arrived.
To: "Vincent"

Date: Friday, January 11, 2013, 7:22 AM

The hour of justice HAS arrived. (Question: Why does that make you sick to your stomach? Do you have medical problems?)

You have to do something...even if you fail.

The hour of justice....HAS arrived...and we need to do everything in our power...to make that happen.

There is ENOUGH evidence...to try it all in court...and put Dick Cheney away for a long, long time.

On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Vincent wrote:

There is no BARFLY in the country that will take the case.

It's up to us... there are those of us in the Law movement that can fight these cases... but we need the support of witnesses to make sure the court doesn't pull the usual BS.

~vincent

Notice: This email is a private communication meant only for the people I have addressed. All rights retained.

From: Christopher M
Subject: Re: The hour for justice has arrived.

To: "Vincent"
Date: Friday, January 11, 2013, 7:54 PM

I think there will be a TON of expert witnesses ready to take the stand, like all the architects and engineers at AE911 Truth.

There is much eyewitness testimony/evidence and videographic evidence that is already recorded in the pages of history.

And I'll bet we could get plaintiffs from all 50 states who are family members of the 911 victims...who would be willing to press charges against NIST and the 911 Commission, and to some degree FEMA....for covering up a mass murder, obstruction of justice, destruction (omission) of key evidence, and fraud.

I want to use my site as an open-source case building mechanism where a case is built for each suspect, like Dr. John Gross (who is still employed by NIST), but who openly lied on camera nervously denying any reports of molten metal...when there were LOTS of those reports.

And "private sector" head engineer for the investigation for the 9-11 scenes (curiously he was also the head engineer at the Waco massacre and the OKC bombing)...is caught red handed on camera on the BBC documentary lying and saying that "we looked for evidence of explosives and did not find anything."

We build a case against these and others...(edited and solidified by people in the legal field, such as you)...in other words, made bulletproof, and do all the work for the prosecutors so when it comes time to hand the whole case to a judge and a grand jury, they will be obligated to listen...and face the truth...or face impeachment.

Thoughts?

On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Vincent ‪ wrote:‬
people in the legal field

Correction... I'm not... nor do I ever wish to be in the "legal" field.

Law = supreme law of the land. legal = evil. pure evil.

hand the whole case to a judge and a grand jury,

Actually a grand jury has no judge. The grand jury itself is the judge. The only problem is finding a lawful grand jury that has not been made illegal without being signed off on by an Attorney general. I had some emergency financial trouble come up and can not afford this right now

~vincent

Notice: This email is a private communication meant only for the people I have addressed. All rights retained.

[INSERTED NOTE: STOP. Actually what he said was this.

“Actually a grand jury has no judge. The grand jury itself is the judge. The only problem is finding a lawful grand jury that has not been made illegal without being signed off on by an Attorney general. We've been looking into this however the outlook for a grand jury is very bleak which would be recognized by the sheep - and that's what counts.”

1. The statement “I had some emergency financial trouble come up and can not afford this right now” DOES INDEED appear on the backchannel of this email thread.

2. I am the author of this statement….but it was NOT addressed to this individual “Vince” and it was in NO WAY EVER cut and pasted to change his email backchannel.

This was addressed to a fitness software vendor, when, my taxes were figured out, and I owe a sh** ton of money in taxes this year, I can not afford such stuff and so I was emailing them for a refund.

I would never, ever do something like actually manipulate and change someone’s words. NO WAY IN HELL! I have a conscience. And have to sleep at night.

3. So if Vince did not change this (I take him at his word) and I most certainly did not change this…then WHO DID?

That is the interesting question.

4. Is there a third party that is f**king with us here? Altering our emails??

We know through the PATRIOT Act that the Fourth Amendment was destroyed.

Questions to ask.

Hello NSA. Hello FBI. “Hello CIA. Hello State Department. We know you’re here…taking notes….but guess what….there are more of us than there are of you.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fGc6auB4j8

END INSERTED NOTE. BACK TO EMAIL THREAD]

From: Christopher M
Subject: Re: The hour for justice has arrived.
To: "Vincent"
Date: Friday, January 11, 2013, 9:03 PM

You said "those of us in the law movement"

Plus you talked being part of a legal team. I was taking you at your word.

If my suggestions are not good enough...then please show me yours.

ARE YOU....a DISINFORMATION AGENT?

Prove that you are not. That is my challenge to you.

Vincent
to: Christopher M
date: Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:27 AM

My first reflex was to take that kinda personal. As evidenced from this thread... your last reply was factually incorrect... too much coffee or just some blind sided approach to try and take me off my game?

If I was a "dis-info" AGENT -> Would I tell YOU? They do lie you know... anyway...

I could of course ask you the same thing. Are YOU a dis-information agent... perhaps using some reverse psychology on me with the purpose of trying to get ME to gain YOUR trust instead of the other way around? Pretty deep huh?

If you are a dis-info agent... do you actually know who signs your paychecks or do you basically just go cash them without much consideration and then go home and kiss your children at night without a clue of what's going to happen next week, next month... next year?

Your move. Conversation is getting interesting. I'm bored silly and kinda gloomy tonight as I received some other bad news as well. All around looks like liberty is falling down. I go with God brother. Do you?

You know... if you ARE a dis-info agent perhaps you could take this opportunity to come clean... maybe join the good guys... bring in a world of peace and abundance... perhaps start providing me with some valuable intel. Think about it. You may have money, power, etc... (nice website btw) but at the end of the day without a soul... is it really all worth it? You may have sold your soul to the devil my brother but you can always avoid the contract seeing as you did not receive full disclosure of the terms... ever consider that?

Either way... you should know that my guardian angels protect me. That's not some crackpot theory... just way too many coincidences that have happened over the last few years to possibly discount them ALL as coincidences.

Jesus flipped the tables on the banksters. Ever hear of a counter-claimant? For the record... I accept your oath of office, bind you to it.. and remind you of your fiduciary duty to me. Please take special note of the text in the notice below.

~v

Notice: This email is a private communication meant only for the people I have addressed. All rights retained.
subject:

Vincent
to: Christopher M
from: Christopher M
to: vincent sonofgod
date: Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:30 AM

I am just one man. Not part of the NWO. I just want justice for all of the people who died on 9-11-01 and, quite frankly, all of the troops who have perished since that day.

I am the ANTI-NWO..

I have no government paycheck. Am just one man trying to make a difference.

Sorry I offended you with the disinfo agent question. It is hard to trust anyone these days.

Friends.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

[NEVER RESPONDED TO]

My subject line to this individual: “If you need verification I am not working for them”

Then please call me. I will be happy to speak with you via phone or Skype so you can see my eyes. 757-***-****

I am not one of them...and, I guess to turn the tables a bit, I am actually hurt that you would accuse me of such. But, I understand.

Email, just like blogs....is so damn impersonal.

Friends,

Chris

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Vincent ‪ wrote:
I just got verification.

I'm God powered! You've been exposed. I only hope it's before you haven't hurt to many other peaceful people just trying to be left alone. How many DP members have you set up and had thrown in prison sweat shops over the last year? You know what you tried to do. I did my duty as one of the free people. I wish more of us would and we wouldn't be facing this insanity. Federal officials paid tax dollars to commit fraud. Now what are you going to do to make it up to mankind? A confession would be the first order from the man upstairs.

http://www.dailypaul.com/269839/liberty-threat-level-red-fed...

Go get a job on a farm brother. Grow some food. Help an old lady across the street. Turn over a new leaf. Think about joining the good guys... there's still time...

~v

Notice: This email is a private communication meant only for the people I have addressed. All rights retained.

SO….IN CONCLUSION….YOU DECIDE.

I think this person, though delusional, is innocent.

I can tell you and bet my life on it that I DID NOT CHANGE anyone’s emails…past or present.

So…if I did not do this…and if Vince did not….then WHO did?

We are dealing with a level of government psy-ops never before seen in our lifetimes.

They are trying to use the Hegelian dialectic on all of us. Resist them. Stand up to them.

We are in danger.

Chris
Norfolk, VA
January 15, 12:02 AM
Nite!

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.