Comment: I DO NOT

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think the police are a success. I gave one anecdotal example of what would be a successful action.

I think loving dogs is admirable. That does not mean I think Hitler is admirable because he loved dogs. There is a huge difference here.

But I suppose you will just continue to argue against stances I don't hold. So, just carry on. But know that I'm done attempting to engage in dialectics with you. There is no sense in trying to use reason with the unreasonable.