Comment: It's the discussion that's needed, not making our stuff public

Right arguments but you're looking at it from the wrong side. I'm not saying we should tell all on our info. I'm asking for the discussion you referenced above (and then backed off of actually doing so) so we can eliminate those battles.

This has zero to do with what we decide to keep private. This has everything to do with identifying the one battle that's best for us to coordinate against.

If we took the money out of spam by some free-market movement then no one would be paranoid about it. Some would still keep private, others wouldn't give a damn. Their choice but society would benefit overall, don't you think?

You conceded that "IF" the government was small (and other inferred attributes) that we wouldn't be having this discussion.

EXACTLY !!!!

So, if we can get the government back under control, then these discussion AND ALL PRIVACY BASED ONES will go away.

You are probably saying that's impossible but I say it's much easier than people think. Unfortunately, I can't even have the discussion to show how without people running away screaming "it's not possible"!