you behave as a typical collectivist.
I never spoke with the collectivist WE, I only spoke of thee and me and facts.
1) I'm from Missouri show me, Less than half the people eligible to vote in the last election actually voted. That shows people are not buying the states BS.
1a) So your grand plan is what? Reform the state? (har har har). The state is what enables the problem.
2) So the majority of immigrants come here for the freebies? Show me. I don't believe it.
3) Again what is your solution? Reform the state? (har har har). The state is what enables the problem.
The implied outcome is the status quo, You see no problem with the political philosophy of belief in the state.
I believe as Lysander Spooner said in "No Treason, Constitution of no Authority", that the constitution or the current state, either allowed the current awfulness, or it was designed to create it, and since I did not sign any contract for self destruction it has no authority over me.