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I read your reply today and am not yet ready to leave a full reply. I have a children's Bible Club tonight and then my oldest is having is 11th Birthday with Friends over for the night and a day out tomorrow. I am hoping to get some time later tonight to write my thougths, but I do not know if I will. Time will tell. So you have started another book!!! :)

I am going to give you a Christian perspective on "things" and "necessities:" http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/matthew/6-audio.html especially note the latter part of the audio or text: http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/matthew/6.html

Are you familiar with this: http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/psalms/23.html ?

Josf, if the PTB want WWIII we may not be able to do anything about it. If they make all power scarce, then what? The Lord is my shepherd and he will lead me by still waters and prepare a table before me in the presense of my enemies. Those waters and that table are Christ. A peace that passes understanding. If I have no chair for a fire, I will rest in Him.

In a spiritual perspective, we work hard for what we need, and we trust God with the results, even when Criminals abound, it all still belongs to God. He will have the last word. Have you ever heard of Corrie ten Boom? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hiding_Place_(biography)

I will return to original topic when I return. These are words that I do not have to think about. They are a way of life.

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”I found other references having to do with tests done on the synthetic aviation fuel used by the Luftwaffe.”

Speaking of aviation fuel…I’ve been listening to Antony Sutton this week http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYnjwhWVfOQ where he speaks of US supplied tetra ethyl which was needed to supply the octane value of aviation fuel and without that additive, Germany would not have been able to supply fuel to their aircraft. Also talks about the coal and oil fuel.

I have been listening to Antony Sutton: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vftNpSXUOU8 Within the first 5 minutes Sutton discredits socialism. I also found the comments under the video given by LibertyTruthJustice regarding socialism interesting. Sutton discusses “corporate socialism.” “And also states that a socialist planned society cannot advance technologically by itself.” At 25.48
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“If I am paid back, for all my digging, why does someone else owe me anything for future use of that supply of water?”

What if there is a cost to maintain the well? And in modern times, what about the electricity it takes to pump water from the well to the well tower? What if there are on-going costs besides just digging the well?
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“That is not how it works, and you know it. The one well digger invents a "law" that says no one else is allowed to dig another well unless a "license" is issued to a fellow "Union" Well Digger.”

You are too generous, because I do not know that. But I do know that the Amish hand dig wells here without union diggers. But, I do not know the rules about well digging in Missouri, so maybe the person has to be union, I don’t know. I suppose if I were to build a house in the country where rural water is not available I would soon find out!

“In that way the water consumers have to pay "what the market will bear" and you know this bear.”

And after I drill my well, I will have to pay for electricity to pump the water up from the ground into the house. Of course, the Amish…they put a tank up high and let gravity run the water into the house and they use a fossil fuel motor to pump the water from the ground. In a very dry summer their hand dug wells go dry. Then they seek spring water from a neighbor. I have a friend, non Amish, she is in her 60’s now…when she and her husband first married, they delivered water to places that did not have running water. She did not grow up with running water or electricity. Joe, did you have running water and electricity? Jeff’s dad was working on Apollo when the people here in Missouri didn’t even have running water and electricity in their homes.
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“While that is going on, "taxes" (extortion fees), flow to the "National government" (Legal Crime Central), to train people at a very high cost, to torture and murder, at places like "The School of the Americas" (Legal Crime Torture and Murder School), to then send those people, fully equipped (including tons of dollar bills if needed), to those "starving" areas, and they do what they are trained to do, which includes the routine of destroying all forms of power, including the power of water from a wells.”

Is that part of the economic hit man stuff? It is so hard for me to fathom that people want to go and ruin people’s wells. I cannot even think that way. Oh wait, one time I was jealous of my sister and I watched as the tissue paper from a gift bag she was giving my other sister blow away with the wind. I didn’t try to catch the paper…I was kind of satisfied. Granted, I didn’t pull the paper out and toss it into the wind to ruin her gift bag, but I didn’t try to rescue it either. So, I guess before I get all high and mighty on my self-righteousness, I confess an ugly think that I allowed to happen and took satisfaction in because…I was jealous. I suppose filling in people’s wells comes from that same evil, ill, regard towards a person or a group of people. Jacob’s wells were filled in:

Genesis 26:15 For all the wells which his father's servants had digged in the days of Abraham his father, the Philistines had stopped them, and filled them with earth.16 And Abimelech said unto Isaac, Go from us; for thou art much mightier than we. 17 And Isaac departed thence, and pitched his tent in the valley of Gerar, and dwelt there.18 And Isaac digged again the wells of water, which they had digged in the days of Abraham his father; for the Philistines had stopped them after the death of Abraham:

Oh here is why: Genesis 26:14 For he had possession of flocks, and possession of herds, and great store of servants: and the Philistines envied him.

They were jealous!

The Philistines are the Palestinians. Abimelech and Abraham made a covenant to deal with each other’s offspring in truth:
Genesis 21:22 And it came to pass at that time, that Abimelech and Phichol the chief captain of his host spake unto Abraham, saying , God is with thee in all that thou doest : 23 Now therefore swear unto me here by God that thou wilt not deal falsely with me, nor with my son, nor with my son's son: but according to the kindness that I have done unto thee, thou shalt do unto me, and to the land wherein thou hast sojourned . 24 And Abraham said , I will swear

Instead, when Abraham died Abimelech’s people stopped up the wells. It appears to me that people have been fighting over water and making power scarce for a long time.
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“China is being boomed, that place is now being visited by Legal Crime Central people, have you seen what is being done to the air?”

No, but I am looking it up now. Also, it has been my understanding that all the EPA regulations is part of what drove industry to China. So, were the regulations made in order to drive industry to China? Here is an article: http://www.eoearth.org/article/Air_pollution_in_China :

“As China Roars, Pollution Reaches Deadly Extremes” must give the impression that total unprecedented situations regarding air pollution are encountered in China”
How about this thought RE the carbon tax…the Criminals are polluting China during the boom and they will recoup the boom by charging China a carbon tax…or am I connecting dots wrong? How about that for a bear theory? Or has someone else already thought of it?
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“and that Russian guy is discussing these things with me via e-mail, and he already gave me permission to publish our discussion as another book.”

I find that very interesting. Does he know what he is talking about? Because when I am talking to you about ownership of things, they are actually concepts I have never really thought or cared about before. So I feel ignorant, and a bit stupid. If you would like a bear break so you can use your power to learn from the Russian guy, say so, and I will not bother you with such things as ownership of paper, food, salt & pepper shakers, etc. I think those things are on the list to discuss. Here and this writing space is narrowing down quite a bit.
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“"color of law" usurpation, and of no legal standing, in many cases.
Interesting?”

Yes, very! You are learning a lot Joe!

I happened to read the articles of confederation today as well as the Northwest Ordinance. There was some land information in those documents. If I ever get to the bottom of the list I might add some of the land stuff. You may already know it though.
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“If I control access to water, by stopping someone from getting it, then that is measurable as a crime, so why not call it a crime, why call it "water rights"?”

Crime and cruelty. But is someone actually doing that? If I buy property and dig a well because there is no water running to the location, do I have a right to my well water?
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"I think public is something that all people are invited to access. Private is something that does not include access to all people. I think that is simple."
That is nonsense.
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Why is it nonsense? It makes complete sense to me. I see your point about the Walmart drinking fountain. So were is a public drinking fountain? The Zoo, or the National Park, or is a lake public water? But, just because criminals took people’s lives at Waco, does not mean that they didn’t have their own water, oh, but I suppose the criminals might of turned the water off? Or stopped up the well.

But even if all water is public, how will that ever keep criminals from stealing what is public?

To me, the problem is not whether something is public or private or who owns what. The problem is people with evil in their hearts and that evil not being checked and allowed to run rampant. Here are God’s words to Cain before he killed his brother:

Genesis 4:7 NIV If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must master it."

Jesus explains how we are to interact with one another: http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/matthew/5-audio.html

What if everyone acted that way? Would it matter who owned what?

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