Comment: Where do I even start?

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Where do I even start?

Are you even capable of forming a coherent argument?

You can't even connect the dots and perform 2 steps of logic here, all I get from you is more irrelevant long winded deflections.

I can't even get you to stay on the damn topic!

Firstly, nowhere did I say the state or the market or inanimate objects, I think it's pretty clear I understand that people make up both groups, how else could I refer to the state as a "gang of thieves" if I didn't understand this.

Why am I even wasting my time on such an asinine accusation?

Secondly, you claim "The limited government I refer to is based on an agreed upon moral code like that embodied in the Declaration of Independence and codified in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Does an agreed upon moral code exist in an anarchist society and how would the market enable a moral society?".

So you say you believe in natural rights then?

But, I have demonstrated multiple times that this same government you worship, inherently violates these same natural rights, the same natural rights it is supposedly protecting.

If the stated function of government is to protect Life, Liberty, and Property.

Then why does it deprive us of Life, Liberty, and Property by it's very nature?

In order for government to function it has to steal my property, If I refuse to hand over my property, it will take my liberty, and If I oppose its attempts to take my liberty, it will take my life.

It has to steal, enslave, and murder just to exist.

How can an organization that violates your rights to Life, Liberty, and Property protect those same rights?

We are afraid that someone might deprive us of our rights to life, liberty, and property, so we created an organization that deprives us of our rights to life, liberty, and property, to protect us from those that would deprive us of our rights to life, liberty, and property?

We need an organization to violate our rights, in order to protect us from those that would violate our rights?

Finally, "The following links are my suggestions for restoring morality and a legitimate representative government."

That would imply that the state was moral to begin with, it never has been.

This is like arguing to a brick wall, I'm sure you are going to completely ignore everything I've just now posted in this comment (again), and instead reply with another one of your non-sequitur arguments.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard