Comment: I dont know if the engines

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I dont know if the engines

I dont know if the engines are really "tell-tale". in this video an f-4 Fantom is crashed at 500mph into a steel reinforced concrete wall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RV_ba...

see what happens