Comment: Stefan is bringing the common sense perspective

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Stefan is bringing the common sense perspective

1. Agree on definitions. No debate can occur unless there is an agreement upon terms. It is a most basic element of communication.

2. The definition of government is a monopoly on the initiation of force over a given geographical territory. Accept the definition, point out an inconsistency with the definition, or rebut the definition.

3. Government claims to be able to do the very thing it condemns for a private individual.

4. The arbitrary classifying of some people with a "government" label to legitimize the immoral initiation of force is evil.

As Stefan rightly points out if we are going to end slavery or the immoral initiation of force how things turn out 10, 50, or 100 years from now are irrelevant. The goal is ending the immoral initiation of force. It is the single greatest action item on the agenda. Either it is ok to murder, kidnap, steal, rape, pillage, and plunder for all or it is not.