Comment: Fair enough Bob : )

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Fair enough Bob : )

I'll patiently wait for your "revelation". But I'll have you know in the mean time that I am no stranger to the Gnostic world view and am not likely to be all that surprised by your sources.

While I freely admit that I am much more familiar with the pseudepigraphal writings of the Old Testament era, this does not mean that the many extra biblical sources of the common era or Anno Domini, have escaped my notice, neither do I deny the historicity of such texts. I am specifically referring to the Nag Hammadi texts from which have been assembled what is commonly referred to as the Gnostic Gospels, which I suspect to be your primary resource. Mind you, I can only speculate since you have chosen to keep this piece of information a mystery.

At this point I think it only reasonable that we come to some type of agreement concerning the various texts from which we have developed our own particular points of view. Scholars are clearly divided concerning the antiquity of the Nag Hammadi texts. The earliest dates place these texts within the same time frame as what is commonly referred to as the canonical texts, this however, is the minority view. The majority view on the other hand, estimates the Nag Hammadi texts to be much older, but no older than the first part of the 3rd century. Bottom line, I will surrender to you, for the sake of this discussion, the minority or "early" view of the origin of the textual evidence for the Gnostic works. If, you will acknowledge for me, the historicity of the canonical texts from the same period of time. Fair Enough?

Get back to me. Once we have established this common ground I should be more than able to provide an adequate response to each of the "uncomfortable facts" you mentioned above. BTW. I am not married to the King James Bible and have little patience for those who insist that it is the only reliable source from which to discover the heart and mind of God.

πολλα γαρ πταιομεν απαντες ει τις εν λογω ου πταιει ουτος τελειος ανηρ δυνατος χαλιναγωγησαι και ολον το σωμα