“Not Jesus, not God, no Glory, just Common Sense in Modern Times; despite the depleted demand for it.”
It concerns me that people do not realize they are fed so much mis-information and distraction to keep them from realizing that Common Sense in Modern Times exists and that the message is being covered up. Joe, “Common Sense in Modern Times” is an interesting book title.
“Of course. Men against Women is the most lethal, and they are working on that too, for that reason.”
It was brought to my attention by a Christian speaker, James Dobson, I think, that if you look at TV shows and commercials, most of the time the buffoon is the white male. Perhaps prejudice produces more prejudice?
“The Link on the Vietnam War reminds me of the same old tactic where the thief yells "Thief" and the thief points in a direction away from the thief as the thief steals something.”
So specifically, the thief is saying the Pope did it, but the thief is someone else? I read some words from your forum this morning “For those reading this it's probably not unexpected, but there is always more to things than meets the eye, more than popular opinion dares to say.” –Jee-Host I wonder if the thief uses a lot of fronts, organized religion being one of them. You know Joe, I am going to give a Bible quote about the thief below. Spiritually speaking, the thief is Satan and Satan has a kingdom and influence in this world
• Ephesians 6:12 KJV
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
“What is the purpose of true religion?”
The purpose of true religion in my understanding is to have an abundant life. Jesus said he came so that people can have an abundant life. (Joe speaks of abundance too.)
• John 10:10 KJV
The thief cometh not, but for to steal , and to kill , and to destroy : I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
How is abundant life accomplished? Loving God and Loving People.
Matthew 22:37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
If one looks at the 10 commandments the first 4 are about loving God and the second 6 are about loving people. So, love results in true religion (loving people by helping them and loving God by living purely. And the exercise of these things results in abundance.
• James 1:27 KJV
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
“What is the purpose of true religion? Is it a crime in progress if people are being led into miserable lives, and if it is true, then they are also being led into miserable afterlives?”
IMO, it is the fear of a miserable afterlife that false religions use to bind people into miserable lives on earth. And instead of binding people to their Creator, people are bound to an institution. Bound to do certain things for that institution in order to have a good afterlife.
• Jude 1:16 KJV
These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling [words], having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Here is a prophecy about Jesus:
• Isaiah 61:1 KJV
The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound ;
Jesus read that same scripture in the temple on the Sabbath and said that he, himself was the fulfillment of that Scripture: http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/luke/4-audio.html
OK, I can entertain that evidence, and some people actually find their names, the name of the worst on the list, according to some people, is The Black Pope, and that position has a person occupying it, like like the high profile Pope, in his glass bubble.”
Joe, did you know the new pope is a Jesuit? I don’t really know what to think about that. John Taylor Gatto was educated in a Jesuit school. It is in that school he was taught to go to original documentation to get the facts. I’ve heard someone else speak positively about Jesuit education lately. I really don’t know much about it.
“No, the belief now is War for Money is the first choice, and that is called Empire. We are now the Nazis, with a different Flag, and better liars, higher paid liars, and better torturers running the show, and better Serial Killers, the best that money can buy.”
I don’t want to believe that. The screws run so deep. Part of me knows some truth, the other part of me wants to believe we are the good guys…because we were the good guys, because we are the good guys, but bad guys are in charge…and we, for the most part, not me and you and some others, but for the most part still believe that the good guys are in charge. I think it is because they have not yet turned us upon ourselves here in our land from sea to shining sea. So, we for the most part, are shielded from the truth, and/or distracted from it. I guess I wrote that for my own benefit because I am not telling Joe anything that he doesn’t know. I just need to reinforce it for myself.
“See the facts, discuss the facts, and that is how we win, the curtain is pulled back, and the little weak lying sociopath is right there behind the curtain pulling the strings with the Legal Money Monopoly Power.”
But that lying sociopath has so much power. But knowing is power too. My pop knows. His words one time to me were, “I don’t know what we can do about it.” As if had had known for a long time, and as if there is nothing that can be done, but to enjoy one’s own life. Of course he is over 80, so perhaps things were not as acute as they are becoming. He has seen war. Maybe he knows that nothing can be done? Maybe he knows it is better not to provoke that those with the greatest arsenal?
“…just like Abraham Lincoln.”
Jeff and I spoke together about Abraham Lincoln. He thinks that if Lincoln had not been killed right after the war, that reconstruction would have been different. He also said that Lincoln insisted that Dixie be played at the cease fire agreement or whatever it was called. Others did not want Dixie played. I want Abraham Lincoln to be a good guy.
“Cooper was a typical, competitive, leader of the patriot movement, so was Linda Thomson, so is Gerald Celente, Alex Jones, Jesse Ventura, and Ron Paul. So is Rand Paul.”
I think Cooper was skeptical about the moon landing. Do you think that was all a hoax? The other thing I want to say. You friend Foust and Cooper were both shot down. They stood their ground? I don’t know, but it seemed like it was over taxes? To me, when people are shot down, it leaves a void. What power was forfeited by standing their ground and ending up dead? What power continues when the voice continues? That may be simplistic, but it was just a thought. Perhaps there is great power in “not offending them,” As Jesus said. Because one lives to gain and give power another day?
You gave me Linda Thompson’s name Abrams. Did you know she passed in 2009? http://paulding.com/forum/index.php/topic/208225-attorney-li... I do not need to worry about her well-being. That was somewhat a relief. Though I wish she were still living.
“A person is found guilty of denying the holocaust, so named, but not defined, and that person is punished with years in prison?”
I have started watching, but have not yet finished the link as I have to read the subtitles and it will need my undivided attention. The problem I am having is why does anyone want to deny the holocaust? I am listening to holocaust survivor testimonies. They for the most part are the children of the ordeal. I listened to this one Sat & Sun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd7WKPMcFbA&list=EC1DEE787E74... she spent a year and a half in a sewer in Poland with 10 other people. She and the others were fed by a Polish sewer worker. I cannot understand why people want to deny the holocaust. Some of these people went to Israel afterwards. The reason they went is because they were no longer welcome. This lady’s father had been a grocer. They feared for their lives after they escaped Hitler because they were considered bourgeoisie by the Russians and she was not allowed to go to higher education. Only the children of the Proletariat were allowed higher education. They migrated to Israel, and then later she and her husband came to the US. Joe, things are not so easy, which reminds me back to what you said about peeling back the onion layers that the counterfeiters hid behind. It seems there are onion layers of injustice too and innocents get caught in the crossfire. “Voices from the Third Reich” sounds interesting. It would be another perspective. I also listened to either Croatians or Serbs, I can’t remember which, that were persecuted in WWII as they were not Catholic, but Protestant. It seems to me that there was a lot of divide and conquer going on in that war. Have you ever considered all the possible combinations?
Fascism vs. Communism
Catholics vs. Protestants
Arians vs. Jews & Gypsies, etc.
Orientals vs. Anglos
Empire vs. Empire
bourgeoisie vs. Proletariat
How many ways can people be sliced and diced to keep them confused when the real enemy is evil? And what conflicts did those conflicts set up…as in Zionism vs. Palestinians; Capitalism vs. Communism, etc.? But a New World Order cannot be established until WWIII because there is still too much resident power in individuals? I see danger in the collective grouping of evil. workload How can someone tell Jewish children that they have to sit in the back of the class and even if they have a perfect score they will not receive a perfect score because they are Jewish? And how can someone say because your dad owned a grocery store you cannot go to college because your family was too wealthy before the war?
“…which Holocaust must never be denied then, and if anyone dares deny it then, will the punishment be light or heavy for failing to obey without question?”
I suppose this may not be fair to ask since I have not yet watched the link, but what advantage is it for the criminals to not allow people to deny the holocaust…and why do people want to deny it? I suppose I am on this quest because of all the Jew/anti-Jew posts that are popping up on the DP. Why is it OK to pick either side in the Middle East? I like what Dr. Paul said…let Israel take care of Israel. But that does not mean that we have to be against Israel does it? Can’t everyone just get along? And I don’t mean go along to get along, I mean love in the purest sense of religion to do good to others. Doing good is the opposite of doing bad. So is that why the Bible says
• Romans 12:21 KJV
Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good
I wonder if that is anything like Newton’s law of motion, but in the sense that doing good will have the opposite action of doing evil and can even overcome evil thru the abundance of goodness?
I have rambled on quite abit and must now be about the rest of my day as I leave other replies unanswered for the time being. If this one is too lengthy and there is nothing that inspires a reply from you, please don’t force it. I know you have bookwork and many other conversations. I did not proof as I am going to go plant the flowers I purchased Friday.