is probably not the best way to start a discussion. it seems mcdougall mostly agrees with your man but sounds more knowledgeable on the subject.
i know a couple who were very unhealthy, overweight and always going to the doctors. after attending a mcdougall seminar they decided they wanted to change. they followed his program and after a year i wouldn't have known it was the same two people, trim, tan, active and off all their meds. i'm sure they're not alone. why belittle someone who obviously has helped people just because it doesn't appeal to you?
i certainly agree that processed foods and fried foods are no good, as is overcooking, and i'd imagine most health minded folks would agree.
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